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Edward Carroll

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Name, Aliases & Gender

Name: Edward Carroll
Aliases: Caroll
Gender: m

Birth, Occupation & Death

Date of Birth: 1780
Occupation: -
Date of Death: -
Age: -

Life Span

Life span

Male median life span was 56 years*

* Median life span based on contributions

Conviction & Transportation

Sentence Severity

Sentence Severity

Sentenced to Life

Crime: -
Convicted at: Limerick
Sentence term: Life
Ship: Providence
Departure date: 10th December, 1810
Arrival date: 2nd July, 1811
Place of arrival New South Wales
Passenger manifest Travelled with 93 other convicts

References

Primary source: NSW State Records, Convict Ship Indents, Tasmanian Archive and Heritage Office - Convict Conduct Records. LIMERICK CHRONICLE - 18 August 1810
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Robin Sharkey on 16th January, 2014 wrote:

?When aged 30, Edward Carroll was transported for Life to NSW on the “Providence” in December 1810 for “attending nightly meetings - the kind of agrarian political activity that was rife around Limerick county at that time.

Consequently, he spent much of his life as a convict at Port Dalrymple - i.e Launceston- in Tasmania.  There, he led a harsh life, with many severe punishments for what were sometimes small indiscretions, for example using disrespectful language to a magistrate got him 30 lashes.  He received many floggings and was placed on bread & water in solitary confinement or was put to hard labour.  He did not receive a Conditional Pardon until he was 60 years old, in 1840.

The Freemans Journal dated 21st August 1810 reported on the Limerick court proceedings, including the sentencing of Edward Carroll:
“LIMERICK ASSIZES, August 17th.  ….  On Friday the Crown business in the Court ended, the following received sentences, viz. Edward Carroll, for nightly meetings, to be transported for life.”

* He arrived on the Providence on 2 July 1811.
* A year later on 29th June 1812 he was re-transported to Port Dalrymple on the ship “Lady Nelson”.  Eight convicts from the “Providence” were sent on 29th June 1812 to Port Dalrymple per the “Lady Nelson”.  Someone noted on that ship’s Indent that his character was “bad”.

* His Conduct Record in Tasmania (Link here: http://foundersandsurvivors.org//pubsearch-xsl/image/viewer.html?CON31-1-6,358,182 ) shows a prisoner regularly in trouble with his supervisors.  As this conduct record only starts in 1818 there is likely to have been a whole other page entry for the period from 1812 to 1818 (not found).  It is hard to imagine that Edward Carrol was not even more recalcitrant when he was younger, on first arrival.

* Although he had received a Ticket of Leave (TL) by 1822 (using the Conduct Record) he was deprived of it for ten years and put back into government service after he was found guilty in early 1823 of harbouring a bushranger named Dempsey.
* This Dempsey had simply been a convict assigned to a settler and Dempsey claimed he had got drunk. Then he had gone robbing the house of one Patrick Mulkeith near Launceston, and threatened the owner and his servant with two pistols before ransacking the house.  He managed only to take tea and sugar, a pistol and gun-powder, but because the alarm had been raised with neighbours he escaped into the bush. 
* Edward Carroll came into the story ‘harbouring’ him. (See Hobart Town Gazette dated 22 Feb 1823, p.2). 
* Edward’s Ticket of Leave was no restored to him for ten years until early January 1832 (see public notice in ‘Colonial Times, Hobart’ 11 January 1832)
* After restoration of his TL it was regularly removed from him for periods of2 and 3 months for drunken or disorderly behaviour.  Edward’s increasing pattern of drunkenness from about the age of 50 was hardly surprising after the harsh and loveless life he had led, with little hope of improvement to his lot.

TASMANIAN CONDUCT RECORD, 1818 - 1840.
Feb 21 1818 30 lashes OFFENCE: disrespectful language [as] respects the Magistrate
Oct 2 1818 100 lashes and to labor in iron gang one month OFFENCE: Aiding & abetting a bushranger
Aug 31 1819 25 lashes OFFENCE: refuses to work
Dec 23 1820 50 lashes OFFENCE: Absent from PM? 1/1 days
9 Nov 1822 (TL) fined 5/- OFFENCE: Drunk & Disorderly
6 Jan 1823 (TL) To forfeit his TL   OFFENCE: Harboring Bushranger named Dempsey
1 Mar 1823 50 lashes OFFENCE: Attempt to bribe
2 Jun 1825 Rep’d OFFENCE: Absenting himself from his master’s service [In 1825/26 he was assigned to Lieut Thomson of the 73rd Regiment]
4 Janry 1826 Rep’d OFFENCE: out after hours
9 Janry 1826 Confined 14 days on bread & water OFFENCE: violently assaulted B Brittle
15 Janry 1827 Assaulted Ann Greer but No prosecution appeared & the charges were dismissed
20 March 1827 to work in irons one month OFFENCE: Neglect of duty & Drunkenness
4 Nov 1828 50 lashes OFFENCE: Disobeying the orders of overseer by not working when ordered to do so by him
18 Dec 1830 3 weeks solitary confinement on bread & water OFFENCE: Neglect of duty & refusing to work
21 Janry 1831 Neglect of duty , charge dismissed
15 Nov 1831 7 days solitary confinement on bread & water OFFENCE: Drunk
14 Dec 1831 one month imp’d hard labor OFFENCE: Drunk
13 April 1832 Rep’d neglect of duty OFFENCE: Drunk
18 Dec 1834 TL Fined 5 /-s   OFFENCE: Drunk
7 Sept 1835 TL   Recommended to be deprived of his TL for the period of 2 months. OFFENCE:  Drunk at Muster
29 Jan’ry 1836   Recommended to be deprived of his TL for the period of 3 months AND to be worked in a road party for that period at Westbury.  Ticket not to be restored until his conduct shall have been reported vide Lieut Gov’r decision OFFENCE: Being DRUNK
9 Feb 1836 3 months hard labour, St Peter’s Pass Road Party, conduct report and not to reside within town, Ticket of Leave suspended during that period OFFENCE: Drunk
15 Oct 1837 - TL highway robbery, discharged
Janry 1838 TL -  OFFENCE: Drunkenness
1 Dec 1838 TL - Rep’d and ordered to leave town OFFENCE: Disorderly conduct
7 Feb’ry 1840 Conditional Pardon no 2325

The Annual returns of convicts in Van Diemens Land showed as follows:
1825 - Assigned to Lieut Thompson of the 73rd Regiment
1830 - Public work
1832 - Assigned to J Simpson Esq
1835 - Ticket of Leave

During 1836 at least, he was employed by Mr William Weir, a Launceston builder who was made insolvent in December 1836, and Edward, together with 17 other of William Weir’s employees went into print in the local Launceston newspaper in order “ to state our entire approbation of his conduct towards us, and to avow, that his conduct has ever been characterised by candour, disinterestedness, and benevolence. We sincerely regret the embarrassment of his affairs, and his subsequent confinement, and most respect fully request, that the creditors to the estate will act
with as much liberality in the matter as possible.”

1840 - Conditional Pardon granted to Edward Caroll
1842, December - fined for being drunk (Launceston Examiner 7 Dec 1842)

He did not appear on any of the Tasmanian Censuses of the 1840’s, as he would be unlikely to have been the main householder.

Robin Sharkey on 22nd January, 2014 wrote:

Freemans Journal Saturday, 13 October, 1810, page 2
“LIMERICK, OCT 10 … (several items, then …..
Monday Last, [i.e. 8 Oct]  Edmond Carroll and Thomas Currane were committed from the County Jail to Cork, thence to be transmitted to Botany Bay; and yesterday morning the noted Pat. McAlister and Judith Quinlan were also forwarded from the City Jail for the same destination.”

Robin Sharkey on 25th May, 2014 wrote:

EDWARD CARROLL - CRIME IN NSW
approx 13 June 1812 - sentence from Bench of Magistrates in Sydney: two years hard labour wheresoever the Governor shall direct, and a whipping.

So, Edward Carroll was removed to Hobart in July 1812 for a reason:  his colonial crime was “the heinous offence of having violated a child whom he had enticed from her parents.” (i.e. sexual assault/rape).

First he was to be whipped publicly at a cart’s tail on Monday 15 June 1812
* and then to receive 200 lashes
* and when in confinement to be in solitary confinement and fed only bread and water for two years!

How did Edward Carroll survive this at all?  His Tasmanian gaol behaviour comes as a reaction to the degradations piled on him.

Report in Sydney Gazette, dated 13 June 1812, p. 2, column 1:
” This day a Bench of Magistrates assembled ; before whom Edward Carroll, a labouring servant of the Crown, was convicted of the heinous offence of having violated a child whom he had enticed from her parents. The sentence passed on the culprit was prefaced with the most pointed animadversions on the atrocity of his offence ; which, for the protection of the rising generation, could not be punished in too exemplary a manner. It was a daring and licentious outrage to morality, which in its Consequences went not only to destroy the happiness of parents, and of families, but to intail shame and misery on the unfortunate victim of a degenerate and vile propensity. By example, therefore, to repress as much as possible a crime in which so many direful consequences were involved, the Bench thought proper to order, that the prisoner should be whipped publicly at a cart’s tail on Monday next, -when he should receive   two hundred lashes ; and be kept two years to hard labour wheresoever it should be the pleasure of His EXCELLENCY the GOVERNOR to direct; and during the whole of that period be kept in solitary confinement after his hours of labour, with bread and water for his only diet.”

Convict Changes History

Robin Sharkey on 16th January, 2014 made the following changes:

convicted at, term: 99 years, voyage, source: NSW State Records, Convict Ship Indents, Tasmanian Archive and Heritage Office - Convict Conduct Records (prev. ), firstname: Edward, surname: Carroll, alias1: Caroll, alias2: , alias3: , alias4: , date of bir

Robin Sharkey on 14th January, 2015 made the following changes:

source: NSW State Records, Convict Ship Indents, Tasmanian Archive and Heritage Office - Convict Conduct Records. LIMERICK CHRONICLE - 18 August 1810 (prev. NSW State Records, Convict Ship Indents, Tasmanian Archive and Heritage Office - Convict Conduct

Iris Dunne on 21st June, 2020 made the following changes:

gender: m

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