Lawrence Harman

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douglas harman on 13th October 2024

Evidence to the journey of John and Laurence Harman to USA is found in TROVE...Papers of Major Henry Sirr 23 April 1801 "John and Laurence Harman to Sirr".

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douglas harman on 6th October 2024

There is evidence that John Harman born 1778 and Lawrence Harman born 1766 both were granted pardons and exiled to USA. In their sister Mary Byrne nee Harman's Death notice ( Bedford Gazette, PA. 13JUL1860) they are mentioned as having left Ireland. So who was Lawrence Harman born 1777 and transported to Sydney.

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Penny-Lyn Beale on 29th October 2021

1811 - Old Sydney Burial Ground - Inventory of Burials Name; Lawrence Hurman ** Spelling as per Inventory ** Age; 37 years - Born abt. 1874 Year of Burial. 19 Sept 1811 Remarks; Convict

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Robin Sharkey on 4th April 2016

Lawrence Harman, tried in Dublin for treasonable practices; Life transportation per "Tellicherry" arrived NSW 1806. Laurence Harman, Irish, was one of the rebels who remained fighting in the Wicklow Mountains with Michael Dwyer after the Irish Rebellion had been put down. He was one of many of the Dwyer gang transported on board the Tellicherry (besides the main Wicklow five who had been exiled). Three Harman brothers -Lawrence, Nicholas ad John - were all part of the Dwyer Gang, and proclamations were issued for their capture from July - Dec 1800, from Rathdrum, co Wicklow. The youngest, John, was the most wanted. Freemans Journal, 13 July 1800 p 1 "The following ROBBERS, MURDERERS and DESERTERS are now wandering about, and are occasionally concealed by disaffected persons in the Counties of Wicklow, Wexford, Carlow, Kildare, Dublin &tc and Rewards will be paid for securing such of them as are first mentioned agreeably to a Proclamation dated the 8th day of June last: "3rd JOHN HARMAN, twenty two years old, five feet ten inches high, fair complexion, brown hair, well made, large grey eyes, and speaks thick, born near the Seven Churches. Two Hundred Guineas for taking him. " LAWRENCE HARMAN, thirty-four years old, five feet six inches high, light brown hair, grey eyes, heavy limbs, round faced, dark sandy complexion, brother to John Harman. " NICHOLAS HARMAN, twenty-nine years old, five feet eight inches high, slender made, light brown hair, long visage, light limbed, long thin nose, brown eyes, a wild look, cannot speak plain, (brother to John and Lawrence)." __________________ Although it was Lawrence who was transported, it was the story of the brother, John's, capture in December 1800, which was reported in the newspapers. As a report of Lawrence's capture and/or trial have not yet been found, then it is possible this story was about Lawrence. LAWRENCE in NSW * Tellicherry Indent - tried July 1803 at Dublin. * 1806 muster -Prisoner, Occupation - with Government, at Parramatta * 1811 September - Death Of Lawrence "HURMAN" NSWBDM registered as "Hurman" Church registration at St Phillip's Sydney, buried 19 Sept 1811, at Sydney. The age of 37 is not consistent with any of the Harman's ages stated in 1800. If Lawrence died in 1811 he would be aged about 45 years, and John about 33, Nicholas would be about 40. ACCOUNT OF THE CHASE FOR JOHN HARMAN From "The Life and Times of Robert Emmett" by R R Madden published 1857, at page 111: " A party of Dwyer's men crossed the river near the Seven Churches, in December, 1800. On going to one of their haunts, they and their arms got wetted : their place of concealment was a turf-clamp hollowed out, and the aperture built up with sods of turf. They were in this place of concealment when the Rathdrum cavalry came up, having received information of their being there. One of their party was in an adjoining house, and was in the act of shaving himself at the very moment the cavalry were at the door. After a few minutes conversation among themselves, the soldiers passed on to another house, not thinking that was the place which had been described by their informer. The outlaws being apprized of their movements, considered it better not to stir, thinking the party would not come back. They came back, however, and proceeded to pull down the clamp of turf ; when one of the men in concealment, Andrew Thomas, snapped his gun thrice at the assailants without effect, as from passing the river the night before, the priming of their guns had been wetted. Thomas looked at the musket, and said, ' It never missed fire before.' "He and the others then rushed forth, and bolted through the cavalry without sustaining any injury, saving a blow of the butt-end of a pistol, which Thomas received on the head from a man named Manby, from Rathdrum ; and Manby, it was believed by his own companions, would have got out of Thomas's way, but the passage was very narrow. " " I had this account from one of the yeomen who was on the spot. Mr. Weeks was out shooting on the bogs, and had his fowling piece loaded with duck shot, and had joined the party in quest of the outlaw, he fired at Thomas and wounded him severely in the thigh, after been wounded he made a desperate resistance, but he was despatched. His body was thrown across a horse's back in a shockingly mutilated state, and carried the distance of eight miles to Rathdrum, where they cut off his head and placed it on the Flannel Hall. Thomas was much looked up to by his party, and he was known to be a very determined man and a first rate shot. He was considered by the yeomen to be a brave honourable fellow. The reporting in the Freeman's Journal was as follows: FJ Thursday 1 January 1801, page 2 “Extract of a letter dated Rathdrum, Dec 26 “On the 22d inst, eight of the cavalry of this town, headed by Lt Tomlinson, rendered this country an essential service: at a place called Castlekevan, about eight miles hence, they discovered the lair of three of the most nefarious of the rebel banditti by which the country is infested. These desperadoes were concealed in a cavity under a lump of turf, in an out-house belonging to a fellow of the name of McDonald, from whence, with a ferocious temerity, they rushed on the Lieutenant and one of the troop, (the rest dispersed into other parts adjacent, on the search) – on the instant they fired on Mr Tomlinson and his companion, but happily without effect, and then with precipitancy ran for the open country, which they reached by reason of the scattered state of the troop. The discharge of muskets, however, having collected them, a pursuit began, during which the rebels kept up a sharp fire, being well armed and provided with ammunition, and priming and loading with surprising alacrity. "Their knowledge of the country too gave them the “vantage ground” as they kept the bogs and heights, which the yeomen perceiving, some dismounting, dislodged them from their strong holds and, after a time, Andrew Thomas was killed and John Byrne housed and taken. AS REGARDS THE PURSUIT OF HARMAN: Emmet's account went on to say this, still at p111: " Harman, who was in a complete state of nudity when he broke through the cavalry, was pursued by Mr. Thomas Manning, both were men of large stature and great bodily strength, but the former soon began to leave Manning behind, whose horse sunk at every step in the boggy ground ; at length, after a chase of three miles, and coming to a bridge extremely narrow, Harman found his passage likely to be stopped by a Mr. Darby, who was posted there on horseback fully equipped, having got before him by taking the road. Harman advanced boldly to him with his gun levelled, which was in the same condition as Thomas's had been, and cried out, ' Come on, Darby, you or I for it ' "Mr. Darby, astonished at the strange apparition of the naked desperado, drew his horse as close as he could to the battlements of the bridge, and let this ugly customer pass by. "This encounter took place near to Harman's residence. He succeeded in getting to a place of safety, and surrendered some time afterwards, ..." The account was consistent with the FJ report, continuing: "John Harman effected a most miraculous escape. Being now left alone, he betook himself to a constant flight, directing the course to Seven Churches. After a chase of upwards of five miles through the country, during which he was so fleet that taking advantage of the ground, he beat two of the best horses in the troop, till the pursuers having lost sight of him in a thick mist on the top of the mountain over St Cavan’s bed, and night coming on, they thought it advisable to return to their party. This fellow in his flight threw off all his clothes, so that at last he was stark naked: this circumstance, the length and hardship of the case, and severity of the season, coupled with the consideration of his being wounded in the back of the neck, give room for a hope that he cannot survive such a shaking. "The ruffian harbourer of these hordes [ i.e. McDonald] having absconded, his house was consumed and during the conflagration upwards of 100 rounds of cartridges exploded from the thatch. There were also 46 rounds found on the rebels. ..... Andrew Thomas, John Byrne and John Harman were three of the ruffians proclaimed by Colonel Stewart.”