Margaret Holmes

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iain Frazier on 18th June 2025

Family connections for Margaret (Holmes) are: Amendments made Nov 2025. HOLMES Margaret (Holmes) was born about 1768. She was tried w/1other for theft of calico, on 4 11 1789, of Edward (Bowerbank) at Old Bailey on 9 12 1789, sentenced to 7years, held probably at London or Middlesex Gaol Delivery & arrived in NSW as a convict on 9 7 1791 after a voyage of 6months on Fleet ship MARY ANN; she was Protestant. She had a first relationship (1of4) with William (Morrison) sailor on the ship.>>> [Some details taken from this Website] William (Morrison) arrived in NSW as a sailor on 9 7 1791 after a viyage of 6months on Fleet ship WILLIAM AND ANN. (Holmes) & William (Morrison) produced 1child: 1.William (Morrison) was born on 28 4 1792 & baptised on 6 5 1792 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. .. >>>Margaret (Holmes) had a second (2of4) relationship with William (Smith).>>> William (Smith) may have been born in 1758. He arrived in NSW as a convict in 1790 after a voyage of 7months on Fleet ship SCARBOROUGH; a voyage noted for extreme brutality of prisoners with a high death rate. It may be he who was executed/hanged for theft on 16 11 1795. William (Smith) would be one of the 3xWilliam (Smith)s shown on SCARBOROUGH on this Website-or perhaps a relative of Joseph (Smith) shown here. Margaret (Holmes) & William (Smith) produced maybe 2children; [Noted a Benjamin (Smith) is recorded as born to a William (Smith) & unknown on 9 5 1793 & baptised on 9 3 1794 at St Phillips CofE Sydney] 1.Charlotte (Smith) was born on 28 10 1794 & baptised on 5 4 1795 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. She married Richard William (Cobcroft his first marriage) on 2 11 1812 at St Matthews CofE Windsor & produced 8children. She died on 1 1 1829 age34 at Wilberforce & was buried, as (Cobcroft), at St Johns CofE Wilberforce. [Noted a Charloy\tte (Smith) is recorded as dying on 18 6 1829 age56 (said to be 59) & buried at St James CofE Sydney. ..Richard William (Cobcroft) was born on 3 2 1793 & baptised on 17 3 1793 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He was described as a settler in 1821 & a farmer in 1822, 1825, 1827 & 1829. He married secondly Mary Ann (Cross) on 27 10 1829 at St Johns CofE Wilberforce. He was recorded in 1831 as a farmer. He died on 24 7 1866 age73 father of at least 9children. ..Details of Richard William (Cobcroft)s family are given in entry for John (Cobcroft SCARBOROUGH 1790) on this Website. .. 2.George S (Smith) was born on 25 8 1796 & baptised on 13 11 1796 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. .. >>>Margaret (Holmes) had a third relationship (3of4) with Patrick (Shannon his first relationship) & produced a child. She was Free by Servitude by 1799. She produced 4known children in her lifetime. Patrick (Shannon) may have been born in 1759/67/69. He was tried at Kings co. Ireland, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 26 9 1791 after a voyage of 6months on QUEEN. He was Free by servitude by 1799. He had a second relationship with Elizabeth (Mulhall her first relationship). [Noted a Patrick (Shannon) is recorded as dying in 1805 age about46] He was recorded in 1806 as a trader. He died on 6 6 1813 age44 at Castle Hill father of 3children & was buried at St Johns CofE Parramatta. [Some details taken from this Website] Reference: Craig James Smee 'Births and Baptisms Marriages and Defacto Relationships Deaths and Burials New South Wales 1788-1830' ..a complete listing from church & other records in the early colony.

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jennifer burgess on 5th December 2021

It has been proven by a mtDNA from a direct female descendant of Elizabeth Smith, that there is no Mary Darkinjung who had a child with Joseph Smith. the DNA shows that Elizabeth Smith is English and Romany

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Graeme Hudson on 6th June 2019

Margaret had several relationships and marriages. Children: Charlotte 1794 (LZK4-ZY3), George S 1796 (K8V1-QJZ) - married Father, William SMITH 1758 (L27L-2QJ). James 1799(LVHL-Y82)- married father Patrick Shannon 1759-1805(LHCC-ML4) Joseph 1804-?(KN81-RTL),William 1809-1870(K26P-LF9),Mary Ann 1811-1912(LH16-B5L)- father Joseph SMITH(L1H1-ZVZ) .Elizabeth Smith 1799 (LQ5X-57J)- father Joseph SMITH(L1H1-ZVZ) (m Margaret Holmes), mother Mary Darkinjung 1780-1851, not married, (www.geni.com/people/Mary-Darkinjung). My family line through Elizabeth and father Joseph - many earlier researchers have denied birth to Darkinhung and the Aboriginal heritage.

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D Wong on 5th June 2019

Old Bailey: 9 Dec 1789: HANNAH CARLTON and MARGARET HOLMES were indicted for stealing, on the 4th of November last, fourteen yards of callico, value 16 s. the property of Edward Bowerbank. EDWARD BOWERBANK sworn. I am a linen draper in Newgate-street : I lost fourteen yards of callico, on the 4th of November; I cannot tell what day of the week; I was not at home: I was sent for immediately on the prisoners being detected. JOHN BOWERBANK sworn. The prisoners came into the shop of Mr. Edward Bowerbank , between five and six, the 4th of November, to buy a cotton bed-gown; I shewed them some prints for it; and Ann Carlton took one of the prints off the counter; I saw her; it was a piece of callico containing fourteen yards; I had shewed it to her the first piece; she laid it on one side; and I saw her take it, and put it under her apron, and go to the door; in consequence of which, she says to the other that she left in the shop, make haste and buy; she made no answer; and while I was going to the counter, she made off; I took her about an hundred yards from the door; she had the property on her; till I brought her into the shop, it was under her apron; I saw her drop it in the shop; I picked it up; I gave it to my brother; and he and me have had the care of it: he locked it up; I am sure that piece belonged to my brother; it has our shop mark: when the prisoners came in, they looked at the prints, and discoursed together; I took her into custody. EBENEZER BOWMAN sworn. I am a haberdasher; I was passing along Newgate-street, and happened to stop; there was a confusion of carriages, and I stopped opposite the door; and I saw the prisoner Carlton come out of the door with some thing in her apron; and she said to Holmes, make haste and buy what you want, and come along; Carlton was at Mr. Bowerbank's door; immediately after that, she ran; and then seeing Mr. John Bowerbank come out, she ran very fast up the street; and John Bowerbank caught her about a hundred yards from the door, brought her back, and said she was a shoplifter, and had taken a piece of print; she said nothing; I desired him to be cautious how she dropped it, because she might take it with others; and I saw the print under her apron, and on the step of the door; it was a small pattern, yellowish ground, two or three colours; it was opened, and I particularly looked at it; the cotton was taken care of by Mr. Bowerbank; Holmes was in the shop; I saw her doing nothing. GEORGE PIERPONT sworn. I am a constable; I took the prisoners into custody at Mr. Bowerbank's; I left the property with Mr. Bowerbank; I searched them both, and found no property about them, nor any money, except a few bad halfpence; I examined their pockets compleatly. (The cotton deposed to by Edward Bowerbank.) There is a shop mark in characters, in figures; it was made by me; the figures were a V turned the wrong way, and a cross; I had such a piece when I went out; I had no property but what was my own. Prisoners. We have nothing to say; we have no witnesses. HANNAH CARLTON MARGARET HOLMES UILTY, Transported for seven years. C28/7/1792: Married or partnered with William Morrison a seaman. 28/4/1792: Son, William born. 4/10/1812: Married Joseph Smith (Neptune 1789) at St. Matthews, Windsor. Children: Joseph Smith 1804-1856 William Smith 1809-?? Mary Ann Smith 1811-1912 1828 Census: Smith, Joseph, 55, free by servitude, Neptune, 1790, Protestant, farmer Lower Portland Head, 301 acres, 205 acres cleared 205 acres cultivated, 7 horses, 204 horned cattle Smith, Margaret, 54, Mary Ann, 1791, 7 years, Protestant. 20/9/1850: Margaret died, aged 83, at Macdonald River, Hawkesbury. Joseph Smith died in 1856 and was buried on his farm.