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Thomas Quin

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Name, Aliases & Gender

Name: Thomas Quin
Aliases: Thomas Quinn
Gender: m

Birth, Occupation & Death

Date of Birth: 1793
Occupation: Groom
Date of Death: -
Age: -

Life Span

Life span

Male median life span was 54 years*

* Median life span based on contributions

Conviction & Transportation

Sentence Severity

Sentence Severity

Sentenced to 7 years

Crime: Cow stealing
Convicted at: Ireland, Tyrone
Sentence term: 7 years
Ship: Martha
Departure date: 18th August, 1818
Arrival date: 30th December, 1818
Place of arrival New South Wales
Passenger manifest Travelled with 173 other convicts

References

Primary source: Rev John Jospeh Therry General Correspondence, 1825, State Library of New South Wales. Mayberry, Peter; Comp. Irish Convicts to NSW 1788-1849. Ancestry.com; New South Wales Australian Convict Musters 1806-1849. Gleeson Irish-Australian database.
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Denis Pember on 10th March, 2016 wrote:

In the Muster 1822:
Quin, Thomas, convict, Martha, government servant to Grey, Parramatta.

Then in 1823, Thomas married Rose Carroll, she was aged only 16, whilst he was 26.
Copies of Letters Sent Within The Colony, 1814-1827
List of persons praying His Excellency the Governor’s permission to be married according to the ties and ceremonies of the Church of Rome:
Thomas Quin - convict per Ship Martha.
Rosanna Carroll - free.

Rose was born in the colony, the daughter of William Carroll (Convict, Archduke Charles, 1813) and Bridget Johnson (Convict, Tellicherry, 1806).  #### Clearly William was NOT the father but Rose was raised as his daughter.

Thomas and Rose had two children Mary 1825 and William 1827.

Denis Pember on 10th March, 2016 wrote:

The marriage between Thomas and Rose broke down irretrievably in 1827.
Sydney Gazette Wed 13 Jun 1827 p.
I HEREBY Caution the Public against Harbouring or Trusting my Wife, ROSE QUIN, as I will not be answerable for any Debts she may contract after this Date. THOMAS QUIN, Hunter’s River, June 9, 1827.

In the 1828 Census we Find Rose and her children but no sign of Thomas:
Page 309…
[Ref Q0026] Quin, Rose, 21, born in the colony, Catholic, housekeeper to James Connolly, Newcastle.
[Ref Q0027] Quin, Mary, 3, born in the colony.
[Ref Q0028] Quin, William, 18m, born in the colony.

Robin Sharkey on 9th October, 2016 wrote:

From Ship’s indent:
Thomas Quinn, Aged: 21 years Born: Tyrone County
Occupation Hostler, Height 5ft 1in Complexion: Florid; Hair: Flaxen; Eyes: Hazel;
Convicted -  Mar 1817, at Tyrone Sentence: 7 years

On Embarking at Sydney:
Letter Dated: 1819, Jan 4 On list of convicts disembarked from the “Martha” and forwarded to Bringelly for distribution.

Letter Dated: 1821, Nov 5, 10; Thomas Quinn, Ship: Martha, Year: 1818,

1822 Sept - Occupation/Residence &c: Govt Servant, Parramatta [to] [Mr] Grey

1822 Dec - Letter Dated: 1822, Dec 26;  Servant of Frederick Garling of Prospect; testimony as to his character for a ticket of leave.

Letter Dated: 1823, Feb 5;  On list of persons who obtained tickets of leave during the last week.  Certificate issued: Ticket of Leave number 316;

1824 - Certificate of Freedom number 2066;

1825 Sept - Employed by Mr Eckford at Newcastle

Robin Sharkey on 9th October, 2016 wrote:

MARRIAGE of THOMAS QUIN and ROSE CARROLL:

Witness: Patrick Kirk
Witness: Ellen Kirk
Witness: Mrs Margaret Killfoy

Marriage witness Patrick Kirk had arrived on “Atlas’ in 1802 as young man, and was in 1823 aged about 50. Was an innkeeper in Parramatta (and had a far at Prospect), and in 1823 his inn was on corner of O’Connell & Hunter Streets (1823 Parramatta Map).
Witness ELLEN KIRK was his 15 yr old daughter.  Ellen may have been a friend of Rosanna’s, however she was also witness to many RC marriages and baptisms between 1821 aged 13 and 1830. Through her father’s innkeeping she would have got to know many local people.
Witness Mrs Margaret Killfoyle may have arrived per “Canada”.

Penny-Lyn Beale on 10th November, 2020 wrote:

New South Wales, Australia Convict Ship Muster Rolls and Related Records, 1790-1849
Age; 25.
Offence; Cow stealing

DJ Gleeson on 17th October, 2021 wrote:

Thomas Quinn and Rose Carroll first separated in 1825, and Rose ‘lived with’ John McNamara. Thomas was desacribed as the ‘former husband’. Thomas and Rose reunited and had two children as mentioned above. They separated permanently and in 1829, Rose had another child, James, from a different partner, most probably, James Connolly, for whom she was her ‘housekeeper’.

Convict Changes History

Denis Pember on 10th March, 2016 made the following changes:

convicted at, term: 7 years, voyage, source: Mayberry, Peter; Comp. Irish Convicts to NSW 1788-1849. Ancestry.com; New South Wales Australian Convict Musters 1806-1849. (prev. ), firstname: Thomas, surname: Quin, alias1: Thomas Quinn, alias2: , alias3: ,

Robin Sharkey on 9th October, 2016 made the following changes:

crime

Penny-Lyn Beale on 10th November, 2020 made the following changes:

date of birth: 1793 (prev. 0000), crime

DJ Gleeson on 17th October, 2021 made the following changes:

source: Rev John Jospeh Therry General Correspondence, 1825, State Library of New South Wales. Gleeson Irish-Australian database. (prev. Mayberry, Peter; Comp. Irish Convicts to NSW 1788-1849. Ancestry.com; New South Wales Australian Convict Musters 1806-

Iris Dunne on 17th October, 2021 made the following changes:

source: Rev John Jospeh Therry General Correspondence, 1825, State Library of New South Wales. Mayberry, Peter; Comp. Irish Convicts to NSW 1788-1849. Ancestry.com; New South Wales Australian Convict Musters 1806-1849. Gleeson Irish-Australian database. (

Iris Dunne on 17th October, 2021 made the following changes:

occupation

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