John Randall

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iain Frazier on 3rd October 2023

Family connections for John (Randall) are: Some amendments added Sep 2025. RANDALL John (Randall) was born about 1775 & became a butcher in London. He was tried for breaking entering stealing, on 15 1 1796, linen handkerchiefs of William (Murray) at Old Bailey on 6 4 1796, sentenced to death commuted to Life, held at London or Middlesex Gaol Delivery & arrived in NSW as a convict on 2 6 1797 after a voyage of 9months on GANGES. He was Free by Servitude by 1805. He was able to purchase 21acres at Richmond, on which he produced grain & carried stock, next to property of sheep pioneer William (Cox). He had a relationship with Susannah/Hanna (Ravenscroft) whom he married on 13 8 1810 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. He was employed & lived as butcher in charge at Clarendon abbatoirs; while here he built up his herd of cattle. After 1813 he was off stores. He was issued his Conditional Pardon in 1814; he was 5'7.5" fair/pale sandy hair hazel weak eyes. He was recorded in 1828 with 20acres & house with his wife & a child. He was given/bought 20 & 30acres at Evans Castlereagh & 50acres at Jordan Hill Richmond. He died on 13 10 1859 age84 at Jordan Hill Richmond, father of perhaps 7children, a successful farmer, grazier & butcher. [Some details taken from this Website] [Noted an Eliza (Randall) is recorded as born in 1806 & baptised at St Matthews CofE Windsor-no parents given] [& Noted a John (Randall) is recorded as having a relationship with Sarah (Hill)] [Sarah (Hill) was tried at Worcester Assizes, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 12 6 1801 after a voyage 10months on EARL CORNWALLIS. Noted a Sarah (Hill) is recorded as marrying James Roddy (Clendon) who came free on 2 c10 1826 at St Phillips CofE Sydney] [Some details taken from this Website] [John (Randall) & Sarah (Hill) produced 1child:] 1.Charlotte (Randall) was born in 1808. She married Patrick (Farrell) emancipist on 9 2 1830 at St James CofE Sydney. ..Patrick (Farrell) sawyer was born about 1797/1801 & became a labourer. He was tried at Dublin city Ireland, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 8 4 1816 on GUILDFORD; & sent to Windsor on 15 4 1816 for distribution. On 7 11 1821 he was sent to Newcastle on SALLY. On 8 10 1822 he was employed by Simeon (Lord) for procurement of Timber at Port Stephen. He was a sawyer in 1830. ..[Some details taken from this Website] Susannah/Hannah (Ravenscroft) was born on 18 5 1788. She was tried for stealing, on 21 6 1803, shirt etc of Israel (Watts) probably at Old Bailey, sentenced to 7years, held at Middlesex Gaol Delivery & arrived in NSW as a convict on 7 5 1804 after a voyage of 6months on EXPERIMENT. She was Free by Servitude by 1812. She was recorded in 1828 with her husband & a child. She died on 24 10 1851 age63 at Castlereagh. [Some details taken from this Website] .. John (Randall/Randle) & Susannah/Hannah (Ravenscroft) produced 5children: mostly girls? 1.Alice (Randall) was born in 1804/5 & was baptised at St Phillips CofE Sydney. She married at age16/17 William (Dawes) with permission on 4 6 1821 at Christ Church Castlereagh & produced 8children. She is recorded in 1822 as an employee of Wiliam (Dawes) on 21acres. She is recorded in 1828 with her family at Evan. She died on 27 7 1876 age about72 at Glebe NSW. ..William (Dawes) was born about 1798. Smees records show him separately as arriving on DOROTHY in 1820 & DROMEDARY in 1820-this Website shows a William James (Dawes) on DROMEDARY. William James (Dawes), then, son of James (Dawes) and Mary (Trewit) was born about 1798. He was tried for stealing, on 25 5 1819, a table spoon of Lepmam (Polack) at probably Old Bailey, sentenced to 7years, held at Middlesex Gaol Delivery & arrived in Australia on 10 1 1820 at Van Diemens Land (Tasmania) after a voyage of 4months & oncarried to Port Jackson arriving on 28 1 1820 on HMS DROMEDARY. He is recorded in 1822 as employing A (Dawes) on 21acres. He was issued his Certificate of Freedom on 14 9 1824. He is recorded in 1828 as Free by Servitude farmer with his family on 30acres at Evan & in 1829 as a landholder. His property at Penrith was known as 'Chapmans grant' & later 'Lambridge Estate' where he was a farmer & corn dealer. He was living at Glebe when he died on 12 3 1859 age61 & was buried at St Stephens Church Camperdown/Newtown. ..[Some details taken from this Website] .. 2.Lucy/Louisa (Randall) was born on 14 7 1808 & baptised on 24 6 1810 age23m. She married at age15 Thomas (Shadlow) on 15 9 1823 at Christ Church Castlereagh & produced 7children. She is recorded in 1828 with her family at Evan. She died after 1885 much respected. ..Thomas (Shardlow/Shadlow) was born on 24 11 1799. He was tried for stealing at Leicester Assizes, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 26 6 1819 after a voyage of 6months on BARING. He built the first house at Penrith town. He was Free by Servitude by 1825. He is recorded in 1828 as farmer with his family on 41acres at Evan & in 1829 as a farmer. He was living at his farm at Eagle Vale when he died on29 7 1885 age85-a Pioneer of the District. ..[Some details taken from this Website] .. 3.Ann (Randall) was born on 12 10 1810 & baptised on 15 7 1811 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She married firstly at age16 John (Haines) emancipist on 16 4 1827 at Christ Church Castlereagh. She is recorded in 1828 as Ann (Hanes) with her husband at Evan. She is recorded as having a second marriage <1848. She died in 1893 age about82 mother of 1known child. ..John (Haines/Haynes/Hanes) was born about 1801/3. He was tried several times for stealing offences:>>> ..a.stealing watch etc, on 28 5 1820, of his employer William (Hooper) a blue manufacturer-convicted to whipping & discharged. ..b.stealing w/1other money, on 15 2 1821, of Thomas (Cave)-not guilty. ..c.stealing 7woodworking planes etc, on 14 6 1821, of Edward (Jones)-the trial being probably at Old Bailey where he was sentenced to 7years while held at London Gaol Delivery. ..[Some details taken from this Website] .. >>>John (Haines/Haynes/Hanes) arrived in NSW on 11 3 1822 after a voyage of 4months on SHIPLEY. He is recorded in 1828 as John (Hanes) Free by Servitude farmer with his wife on 59acres at Evan & in 1830 as a farmer. He may have died in 1840 age39?. ..[Noted that Smees records consisistently show the SHIPLEY arriving in 1817] ..[& Noted that maybe another John (Haines) arrived in NSW as a convict on 24 4 1817 after a voyage of 4months on SHIPLEY. He seems to have had a relationship with Mrs Esther (??? therefore her second relationship).] ..[This John (Haines) does not have an entry on this Website] ..[Mrs Esther (???) appears to have married in England. She arrived in NSW as a wife on 5 10 1816 after a voyage of 5months on ELIZABETH.] ..[John (Haines) & Mrs Esther (???) produced 2children:] ..[1.Eliza (Haines) was born in 1821.] ..[2.Charlotte (Haines) was born in 1822. She died on 17 10 1823 age15m & was buried at St Phillips CofE Sydney.] .. ..Ann (Randall) & John (Hai/ynes) produced at least 1child: ..1a.Noted a Mary (Haynes) is recorded as born in 1829 & died on 21 1 1830 age<1-no parents given] ..1.John (Haynes) was born on 24 1 1830 & baptised on 29 1 1830 at Christ Church Castlereagh. .. 4.Elizabeth (Randall) was born on 30 8 1812 & baptised on 27 9 1812 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. She married Samuel (L'Andre) on 17 1 1828 at Christ Church Castlereagh & produced at least 1child. She died on 22 3 1847 age34. ..Samuel (L'Andre) was born in 1807. He was recorded in 1829 as a farmer. He died on 23 11 1882 age about75. ..Details of Samuel (L'Andre)s family are given in entry for Antoine (L'Andre ROYAL ADMIRAL 1800) on this Website. .. 5.John or Randall John (Randall/Randle) was born on 18 7 1815 & baptised on 29 6 1817 at Christ Church Castlereagh. He was recorded in 1828 (age14) with his parents. He died on 30 9 1887 age72. The (Dawes) moved to Cowra, married with (Trelford), (Jeffress) and (Douglass) families. The (Walsh) family is related & started when Richard (Walsh) of Co Kerry Ireland married Bridget (Smith) of Co Cavan Ireland in Braidwood at St Bedes in 1859. Bridget (Walsh) arrived age3 in 1840 with her family. Reference: Craig James Smee 'Births and Baptisms Marriages and Defacto Relationships Deaths and Burials New South Wales 1788-1830' ..a complete listing from church & other records in the early colony.

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Phil Hands on 8th July 2017

John Randall was a butcher from London. He was convicted at the Old Bailey for Burglary on 6th April 1796, at the age of 21 and sentenced to death, which was later commuted to life. Left England early in 1797. Ship:- the 'Ganges' sailed with 203 male convicts on board of which 13 died during the voyage. Arrived on 2nd June 1797. John Randall purchased 21 acres at Richmond. On this land he had his house, 15 acres of wheat, 4 acres of maize, one acre of barley, one acre of garden and orchard, 22 cattle and 31 hogs. The cattle were allowed to graze on the land owned by WIlliam Cox (one of the pioneers in the sheep industry) at Clarendon next door. John was employed as a butcher in charge of the abattoirs at Clarendon, a sattelite town. He built his own home at Richmond but lived at Clarendon as a house was provided along side of the abattoirs until his Richmond home was completed In the details contained in his conditional pardon in 1814, he is described as being 5'7 1/2" tall, of fair / pale complexion, with sandy hair and hazel weak eyes. John butchered his own cattle at these abbatoirs and sold them to the government stores. He was able to build on his herd by purchasing from the farmers by credits from the government store. John was later given or bought 20 and a quarter acres of land at Evans Castlereash as well as 30 acres at Evans Castlereash and 50 acres at Jordan Hill Richmond. In total, he owned 100 and a quarter acres. He had married convict Hannah Ravenscroft ('Experiment' 1804) on 13th August 1810 at St. Matthews Church Windsor, they had 5 children between 1805-1815. John and Hannah became very successful farmers and butchers. They grew wheat, barley, oates, corn, maize, vegetables and had an orchard. They became very independant extending thier cattle. They butchered the cattle and sold them in to the Government stores. After 1813 they no longer called on Government stores for supplies. John only employed free labour and did not call on the pool of convicts as labourers. Hannah died at the age of 73 on 21st October 1851 at Castlereagh. John died at the age of 83 on 13th October 1859 at Jordon Hill Richmond. Old Bailey Trial Transcript: Reference Number: t17960406-11 237. JOHN RANDALL was indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of William Murray , about the hour of nine in the night, of the 15th of January, and burglariously stealing, a piece of linen handkerchief, containing eleven handkerchiefs, value 10s. the property of the said William Murray. WILLIAM MURRAY sworn. I live at No. 1, Little Windmill-street, St. James's ; I keep a haberdashery and shoe warehouse : My house was broke open on the 15th of January; I was not at home at the time; I lost eleven handkerchiefs; I understand they were taken out of the window; I had seen them the very day before, in the window; I went out about ten or eleven o'clock. PHILIP WILLIAMS sworn. I was passing by Mr. Murray's, a little after nine; I saw the prisoner and another loitering about; I got another person to assist me, and we watched them for a quarter of an hour, backwards and forwards; we observed the window cracked; we thought they were gone away, and we were going to tell the people about it, and saw them come again in a few minutes afterwards; they both went, in company together, to the window again; I saw a hand go through and take the handkerchief, but I cannot say which it was; they both stood together; (the handkerchiefs were produced in Court); I said to the witness, they have got the goods, now we will lay hold of them; this gentleman standing here took the prisoner, and took him into the shop, and unbuttoned his coat; the handkerchiefs were buttoned up in his coat; I took the other about eight yards from the window; the prisoner took to his heels and ran, and the other witness went after him. Q. Are you sure the prisoner was the other man that you saw at the window? - A. I am positively sure. I heard the glass fly; I said to the witness, I believe it is broke. Q. When the man put in his hand to take the handkerchief out of the window, did you hear any noise then? - A. Yes. Q. There were no shutters up? - A. No; it was before they shut up the shop. JOSEPH COLES sworn. I saw the prisoner run by Mr. Murray's house; I was coming out of the house where I live; I stood at the door a bit; a person said, some chaps were going to rob Mr. Murray's shop; I watched them about twenty minutes; I saw them cross the way to Mr. Murray's shop windows several times, and they looked about to see if any body saw them; then they went away; and the other witness said, we had better go and acquaint Mr. Murray of it; then I saw Randall on the opposite side of the way; we turned back to a house near Mr. Murray's, and stood in the passage and watched them; Williams said, when we see them brake the glass we will go and take them directly; accordingly we heard them break the glass, and he took Williams, and I took Randall. Q. Did you see if the window was broke when you were going to tell Mr. Murray? - A. We looked at it was cracked, but, I believe, no part out. Q. How near did you take the prisoner? - A. About forty yards; I took him the corner of Crown-court. Q. Was he out of your fight at all? - A. No. JONATHAN DOWLING sworn. I was beadle of the night; Williams and the last witness brought the prisoner to me; I took charge of him; Williams delivered the handkerchief to me; I have had them ever since.(They were produced in Court and deposed to by the prosecutor). Prosecutor. I had only this piece of this pattern in the window, and it was gone, the glass was whole; it was put in two days before, it had been broke by persons of the same description. Prisoner's defence. I was coming from Carnaby-market; I saw two young men; I asked what it was o'clock; there was a cry of stop-thief, and they laid hold of me; the man that is bailed out, said, the man that gave him the property was run away, he knew nothing of me. GUILTY . Death . (Aged 21.), this sentence was later commuted to transportation for life. Tried by the first Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice BULLER.

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Denis Pember on 19th September 2015

Sainty & Johnson; 1828 Census of New South Wales: [Ref R0114], Randall, John, 57, CP, Ganges, 1797, Life. 20 acres all cleared and cultivated, 1 horse, 36 cattle. # Also listed; Randall, Susan, 40, FS, Experiment, 1803. and their son Randall, John, 14, BC.

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Denis Pember on 19th September 2015

John married Susannah (Hannah) Ravenscroft (Convict, Experiment, 1803). They married at St Matthews, Windsor, 13 August 1810. They had 4 daughters and then a son.

Crime date January 15, 1796, trial date April 6, 1796 at the Old Bailey, 21 years of age at the time. Charged with breaking and entering the house of William Murray and stealing a piece of linen handkerchief containing 11 handkerchiefs, value 10s. Sentenced to death, commuted to life.