Thomas Rose

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iain Frazier on 25th August 2025

Family connections for Thomas (Rose) are: ROSE Thomas (Rose) was born about 1773. He was tried w/2others for breaking entering & stealing a boat at Shrewsbury Shropshire Assizes on 19 3 1793, sentenced to death commuted to Life & arrived in NSW as a convict on 18 5 1798 after a voyage of 8months on BARWELL (as was his future father in law Thomas (Bartlett)). In 1801 he, Richard (Perkins) & others were convicted of stealing a boat, sentenced to death & pardoned by the Governor. He became a baker in 1804. He married firstly (1of5?) Elizabeth (Bartlett) with permission on 13 4 1806 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. He was issued his Conditional Pardon on 4 6 1806 when he received a publicans licence & granted land at Chapel Row where he built a bakery & Rose & Crown hotel-both opened in 1810; here he eventually owned all the land bounded by King, Elizabeth, Market & Castlereagh Streets. He recieved his Absolute Pardon on 1 12 1809. In 1813 he was granted 40acres at Evan district (cancelled in 1816). His Absolute Pardon was continued on 31 1 1814. He sold his bakery in 1815. In 1816 he was accused of seditious conduct & sufferred penalties as mentioned on this Website. About 1819 he bought 400acres 'Mount Gilead' on Appin Road. He was an innkeeper in 1826 & was looking after 6other children ages6-19 when his wife died.>>> [Some details taken from this Website] Elizabeth (Bartlett) was born about 1783. She arrived in NSW free on 14 12 1801 with her mother after a voyage of 6months on Fleet ship NILE. She died on 3 11 1826 age40 & was buried, as (Rose), at St James CofE Sydney. Details of Elizabeth (Bartlett)s family are given in entry for Thomas (Bartlett BARWELL 1798) on this Website. Thomas (Rose) Elizabeth (Bartlett) produced maybe 5children: [Noted a James (Rose) is recorded as born in 1806-no parents given] [ & a Thomas (Rose) is recorded as born in 1806-no parents given] 1.Kez/sia Jane (Rose) was born in 1807. She was recorded in 1828 with her father at Appin. She married John William (Balmain/Henderson) surgeon on 28 12 1828 at St James CofE Sydney & produced 3children. She died in 1842 age about34; her 3children were cared for by her brother James Hannibal. ..John William (Balmain/Henderson) was born on 20 8 1800 in Sydney & baptised on 26 9 1800 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. At some time he took on the surname (Henderson, that of his mother). In August 1796 he was taken to Sydney by his parents. In August 1801 he was taken to London by his parents arriving in March 1802. In May 1803 he was taken by his mother to Ormskirk near Liverpool Lancashire & perhaps back to London. He lived in Clements Inn with his mother in 1807. He was a surgeon in 1828 & 1829. In 1842 he perhaps looked after his niece Margaret Elizabeth (Balmain-Henderson) at Yass. He died on 9 8 1850 age50-. ..Details of John (Henderson)s family are given in entry for Margaret (Dawson LADY PENRHYN 1788) on this Website. .. 2.James Hannibal (Rose) was born about 1811. He was recorded in 1828 with his father at Appin. From 1842 he cared for his sister Kezias 3children at Yass. He later moved to Melbourne. .. 3.Joseph (Rose) was born in 1812 & is shown in Smees records. 4.Ann (Rose) was born in 1815 & is shown in Smees records. 5.Jane (Rose) was born in 1818 & is shown in Smees records. ++ [Noted Thomas (Rose)-who is noted on this Website as possessed of great drive & energy-may have had an extra relationship: ] [a Thomas (Rose) & Eleanor (??? his wife) produced 2children: ] [..1.Thomas (Rose) was born on 10 5 1819 & baptised on 10 1 1821 age19m w/William at St Johns CofE Launceston. He died on 18 4 1903 age83.] [..2.William (Rose) was born on 12 11 1820 & baptised on 10 1 1821 w/Thomas at St Johns CofE Launceston. He died on 2 7 1868 age47.] ++ >>>Thomas (Rose) commenced living at 'Mount Gilead' in 1827 where he experimented successfully with water conservation & ground flour in his 60' windmill. He had another (his third 3of5?) relationship with Sarah (Burgess/Perkins her second (2of3) relationship) before 1828.>>> Sarah (Burgess) was born on 18 4 1797 & baptised on 23 7 1797 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. She married firstly (1of3) Richard (Perkins) farmer on 24 12 1812 at St Phillips CofE Sydney & produced 4 children. She had a third relationship with Thomas (Colls). Her 4children by (Perkins) are recorded in 1828 as living with Thomas (Rose) at Appin. She produced 5known children in her lifetime. [Details of Sarah (Burgess)s family are given in entry for John (Burgess ROYAL ADMIRAL 1792) on this Website] .. >>>Thomas (Rose) had a fourth? (4of5?) relationship with Elizabeth (Aicken/Woodhouse).>>> Elizabeth (Aicken) was born in 1796. She married firstly at age15 George Marriott (Woodhouse) on 23 12 1811 & produced 5children. She was recorded in 1828 with 5children. She died on 17 8 1843 age about47 mother of 7children. Details of Elizabeth (Aiken)s family are given below. Thomas (Rose) & Elizabeth (Woodhouse/Aiken) produced at least 2children: 1.Ellen (Rose) was born on 25 12 1828 at Appin & baptised on 15 3 1831 age2 (perhaps by the parish Priest of Campbelltown) at St Marys RC Sydney (or recorded there). It seems she lived with her mother & used the surname (Woodhouse). 2.Cyprian Walter (Rose) was born on 17 12 1830sic (in Smees records) at Campbelltown & baptised on 16 9 1830 (perhaps by the parish Priest of Campbelltown) at St Marys RC Sydney (or recorded there). It seems he lived with his mother & used the surname (Woodhouse). .. >>>Thomas (Rose) married fifthly? Sarah (Pye) on 21 9 1829 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown. He was recorded in 1830 as a settler/farmer. [Noted a Thomas (Rose) is recorded as dying on 3 3 1829 age about56] This person seems to have died on 3 3 1837 age about64 father of perhaps as many as 14children & was buried at Mt Gilead. Later his remains were removed to St Peters CofE Campbelltown; he left a large estate=farms on the Nepean, at Airds, the Murray District, and Botany Bay, houses at Richmond and Windsor, as well as property in Market and Castlereagh Streets including the Rose and Crown Inn and the estate at Mt Gilead.]. Upon his death, his estate, at Campbelltown, was managed by trustees & distributed to many of his family, until his son Charles Henry Jacob took over Mt Gilead in 1858. In 1864 the mortgagee foreclosed and Henry (Rose) was forced to sell Mt Gilead. In 1867, Mt Gilead was purchased by banker Edmond (Woodhouse), son of Elizabeth (Woodhouse) of Appin, who established a very successful dairy. Sarah (Pye) was born on 3 6 1801 & baptised on 12 8 1801 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She is recorded in 1806 at Parramatta with her parents. She is recorded in 1828 as living with her parents at Seven Hills. She died on 20 6 1869 age68+. [Details of Sarah (Pye)s family are given in entry for John (Pye BRITANNIA 1791) on this Website. Thomas (Rose) & Sarah (Pye) produced 5children: descendants live in Monaro area. 1.Charles Henry Jacob (Rose) was born on 22 1 1830 at Appin & baptised on 23 2 1830 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown. He was known as Henry & was a magistrate in Campbelltown & later a land agent in Burwood. He inherited Mt Gilead in 1858. He was ruined in the 1860s & sold Mt Gilead in 1867 to his cousin banker Edmond (Woodhouse). 2.Sarah? (Rose) married Edward (Payten) son of builder Nathaniel (Payten) of Parramatta. Her brother Alfred Marson Nash continued to live with her. ..Details of Edward (Paytons)s family may be given in entry for Isaac (Payton BARWELL 1798) on this Website. 3.??? (Rose) married James (Payten) son of builder Nathaniel (Payten) of Parramatta. ..Details of James (Paytons)s family may be given in entry for Isaac (Payton BARWELL 1798) on this Website. 4.Alfred Marson Nash (Rose) lived with his sister Sarah and her family at Woodbine Campbelltown. 5.Reuben Uther Bartlett (Rose) was born about 1836. He settled at 'Boloco' Dalgety NSW where his grandson still lives. AIKEN James (Aicken) arrived in Australia in 1795 on HMS SUPPLY. He had a relationship with ??? (???) & produced a child: He was a master mariner (now HMS SUPPLY 1788) when he died on 24 11 1807 age47 & was buried at St Phillips CofE Sydney. 1.Elizabeth (Aicken) was was born in 1796. She married at age15 George Marriott (Woodhouse) on 23 12 1811 & produced 5children.>>> ..George Marriott (Woodhouse) arrived in Australia as a clerk with his wife in 1809 on HMS DROMEDARY. He had a first relationship with Mary Ann (Mullett/Talmidge her third relationship). He produced 6children in his lifetime. ..Details of George Marriott (Woodhouse)s family are given in entry for Mary (Mullet INDISPENSIBLE 1796) on this Website. .. >>>Elizabeth (Aic/ken) had a second relationship with Thomas (Rose his fourth (4of5?) relationship) & produced at least 2children. She died on 17 8 1843 age abot47 mother of 7children. ..Thomas (Rose) was born about 1773. He was tried w/2others for breaking entering & stealing a boat at Shrewsbury Shropshire Assizes on 19 3 1793, sentenced to death commuted to Life & arrived in NSW as a convict on 18 5 1798 after a voyage of 8months on BARWELL (as was his father in law). In 1801 he, Richard (Perkins) & others were convicted of stealing a boat, sentenced to death & pardoned by the Governor. He became a baker in 1804. He married firstly (1of5?) Elizabeth (Bartlett) with permission on 13 4 1806 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. He was issued his Conditional Pardon on 4 6 1806 when he received a publicans licence & granted land at Chapel Row where he built a bakery & Rose & Crown hotel-both opened in 1810; here he eventually owned all the land bounded by King, Elizabeth, Market & Castlereagh Streets. He receved his Absolute Pardon on 1 12 1809. In 1813 he was granted 40acres at Evan district (cancelled in 1816). His Absolute Pardon was continued on 31 1 1814. He sold his bakery in 1815. In 1816 he was accused of seditious conduct & sufferred penalties as mentioned on this Website. About 1819 he bought 400acres 'Mount Gilead' on Appin Road. He was an innkeeper in 1826 & was looking after 6other children ages6-19 when his wife died. He commenced living at 'Mount Gilead' in 1827 where he experimented successfully with water conservation & ground flour in his 60' windmill. He had another (his third? 3of5?) relationship with Sarah (Burgess/Perkins her second (2of3) relationship) before 1828.>>> >>>Thomas (Rose) had increased his landholding by 1828 to 2,460acres when he was recorded as a farmer at Appin with 6children. He was a stockholder of Bank NSW, trustee Sydney Public Free Grammer School, treasurer Sydney Reading Room, stock/land agent, owner race horses & clerk Sydney Race Ground as mentioned on this Website. He married fifthly? Sarah (Pye) on 21 9 1829 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown. He was recorded in 1830 as a settler/farmer. [Noted a Thomas (Rose) is recorded as dying on 3 3 1829 age about56] This person seems to have died on 3 3 1837 age about64 father of perhaps as many as 14children & was buried at Mt Gilead. Later his remains were removed to St Peters CofE Campbelltown; he left a large estate=farms on the Nepean, at Airds, the Murray District, and Botany Bay, houses at Richmond and Windsor, as well as property in Market and Castlereagh Streets including the Rose and Crown Inn and the estate at Mt Gilead. Upon his death, his estate, at Campbelltown, was managed by trustees & distributed to many of his family, until his son Charles Henry Jacob took over Mt Gilead in 1858. In 1864 the mortgagee foreclosed and Henry Rose was forced to sell Mt Gilead. In 1867, Mt Gilead was purchased by his stepson banker Edmond (Woodhouse), son of Elizabeth (Woodhouse) of Appin, who established a very successful dairy. [Some details taken from this Website] Details of Thomas (Rose)s family are given above. Reference: Craig James Smee 'Births and Baptisms Marriages and Defacto Relationships Deaths and Burials New South Wales 1788-1830' ..a complete listing from church & other records in the early colony.

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Phil Hands on 20th July 2017

Tried and convicted on 19th March 1793 at Shropshire for house breaking, sentenced to death but this was later commuted to transportation for life. Left England on 7th November 1797. Ship:- the 'Barwell' sailed with 296 male convicts of which 9 died during the voyage. Arrived on 18th May 1798. Granted absolute paron by Governor Macquarie on 31st January 1814. In 1801 Thomas Rose, Richard Perkins and others were convicted of stealing a boat from its owner and sentenced to death. However, they were pardoned through the mercy of the Governor. About 1804 Thomas set up in Sydney as a baker and in 1806 he was granted a publican's license. He received a conditional pardon on 4 June 1806 and following an absolute pardon, granted by Lieutenant-Governor Paterson on 1st December 1809 and later continued by Governor Macquarie but not until 1814, he was granted land at what was then known as Chapel Row. There he built a bakery and alongside it the Rose and Crown Inn, both of which were open for business in 1810. He gradually increased his holdings in this part of town until he gained possession of the entire block now bounded by King, Elizabeth, Market and Castlereagh Streets in Sydney. In 1815 he put the bakery on the market. Thomas had been quite a public figure as a Sydney business man, being a stockholder in the Bank of NSW, a trustee of the Sydney Public Free Grammar School, and treasurer of the Sydney Reading Room. He acted as clerk of the Sydney race-course until 1827, promoted the first races in Sydney and owned many successful race horses. In addition he appears to have acted as a "city agent" for stock and land agents and other businesses in the Campbelltown district. Several advertisements appeared in the Australian, e.g., 15th July 1826 one states that T Rose of Castlereagh St will give particulars for a farm near Campbelltown to be sold by R Cooper of Campbelltown. In another advertisement in the same paper on 31 March 1825 Mr Rose advertised for a waiter for a tavern at Liverpool acting as agent for Mr Brown of the Ship Tavern at Liverpool. In 1813 Thomas Rose received a land grant of forty acres in the Evan District but this grant was canceled in 1816 on account of his "seditious conduct in procuring signatures to the petition against Governor Macquarie" (Rose, Thomas 1816). For the same reason he failed to retain his liquor license between 1817 and 1820. In 1819 he clashed with the governor again when Macquarie decided to build St James's parochial school on pan of Rose's block. In exchange for the school site he was granted 300 acres on the main southern road east of Campbelltown. About the same time he bought from Reuben Uther a 400 acre farm on the Appin Road, named Mt Gilead Later he gradually added to his Campbelltown estate, which by 1828 was estimated at 2460 acres. At Mt Gilead where Thomas Rose lived from 1827 to his death in 1837, he won fame for his experiments in water conservation. He had begun these on a small scale in 1824. In 1825, prior to moving to Mt Gilead, he built a larger dam with a stone embankment holding nearly 120 million cubic feet. In 1829 he built a smaller and cheaper dam near the main road, for the relief of his hard pressed neighbours in the 1829 drought. This so impressed Governor Bourke, that in 1833 he gave the people of Campbelltown a plot of ground for building a reservoir by public subscription. In July 1835 Rose asked the British government for a free grant in acknowledgment of his services in supplying-water to his neighbours. Though this was refused, the undaunted Rose next year built a sixty foot windmill to grind flour. The mill was built of ironbark timber, including shaft and gear wheels within a stone tower and survived intact almost a century. On his death in 1837 Thomas Rose left a large estate, including farms on the Nepean, at Airds, the Murray District, and Botany Bay, houses at Richmond and Windsor, as well as property in Market and Castlereagh Streets including the Rose and Crown Inn and the estate at Mt Gilead. (Will and Testament of Thomas Rose). He was buried at Mt Gilead and later his remains were removed to St Peters Campbelltown. Upon his death, his estate, at Campbelltown, was managed by trustees, until his son Charles Henry Jacob took over Mt Gilead in 1858. Like many farmers Henry Rose was ruined in the 1860s through droughts, floods and rust. In 1864 the mortgagee foreclosed and Henry Rose was forced to sell Mt Gilead. In 1867, Mt Gilead was purchased by banker Edmond Woodhouse, son of Elizabeth Woodhouse of Appin, who established a very successful dairy. Possessed of great drive, energy and an excellent business sense, Thomas Rose was one of those enterprising men who arrived in the colony as convicts and went on to win wealth and respectability in the tough economic society of their new land. He is remembered as a colourful figure in the early commercial and sporting life of Sydney, and as a pioneer of the Appin and Campbelltown district. Thomas Rose married Elizabeth Bartlett by special license with the consent of His Excellency Philip Gidley King on 13 April 1806. Elizabeth's father, Thomas Bartlett, had been a fellow convict with Thomas Rose aboard the "Barwell". Thomas Bartlett's wife Ann Bartlett had followed her husband to NSW with their 14-year-old daughter in 1801 aboard the "Nile". There were two children from the marriage of Thomas and Elizabeth: Kezia Jane and James Hannibal. Kezia married Surgeon John Henderson, son of the First Fleet Surgeon William Balmaln and convict Margaret Dawson. James Hannibal did not marry but cared for his sister's three surviving teenage children following the death of Kezia in 1842 and her husband in 1850. James moved to Melbourne when he left his property at Yass and the Henderson children married in Victoria. Elizabeth Rose nee Bartlett died in 1826. In 1829 Thomas married Sarah Pye (daughter of convicts John Pye, 'Brittania' 1791 and Mary Norton, 'Mary Ann' 1791, there were five children of this second marriage, the eldest aged seven and the youngest aged one at the time of their father's death. The two daughters married Edward and James Payten respectively, the sons of builder Nathaniel Payten of Parramana. The eldest son Charles Henry Jacob, known as Henry was a magistrate in Campbelltown prior to managing Mt Gilead and a land agent in Burwood following his departure from Campbelltown. The second son Alfred Marson Nash Rose did not marry and lived with his sister Sarah and her family at Woodbine Campbelltown. The youngest. son Reuben Uther Bartlett Rose settled at "Boloco" Dalgety, NSW where his grandson still lives. Descendants of another son and several of his daughters also remain on the Monaro. Between around 1812 and his second marriage in 1829 Thomas Rose had two extramarital relationship, one with Sarah Perkins, wife/widow of Richard Perkins and one with Elizabeth Woodhouse whose husband George Marriot Woodhouse had a farm near Mt Gilead. In the 1828 census Thomas Rose's household at Appin consisted of himself aged 51, Kesiah aged 20, James aged 19 ( his two children by his late wife Elizabeth), Anne aged 13 Joseph aged 16, Jane aged 10 and Margaret aged 7. The last four children were thought by many researchers to be children of Elizabeth Bartlett and Thomas Rose, however, there was no record of their births as such. Recently a family researcher has found that while these four children were known by the surname Perkins, the three daughters' death certificates record that their father was Thomas Rose although he is not named as theft father on their birth certificates. All four children were beneficiaries in the will of Thomas Rose described as the children of Sarah Perkins, widow of Richard Perkins. Joseph and his sisters each received approximately 160 acres of land with Joseph receiving a house at Richmond and another at Windsor in addition to his land. The land on the Nepean which Thomas Rose left to Joseph Perkins had previously been purchased by Rose from John Burgess and Richard Perkins. John Burgess was Joseph Perkins grandfather. Since advertising the Rose Reunion in 1999 the Woodhouse connection has come to light. This relationship produced two children, Ellen born December 1828 and Cyprian born December 1829. Both children lived with their mother and were known by the surname Woodhouse. These two children were baptized by Father John Therry Parish Priest of Campbelltown whereas the other children of Elizabeth Woodhouse were baptized in the Church of England.

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Denis Pember on 25th November 2015

Sainty & Johnson; 1828 Census of New South Wales: [Ref R1355] Rose, Thomas, 51, absolute pardon, Barwell, 2798, life, farmer, Appin Rose, James, 17, born in the colony Rose, Kesiah, 20, born in the colony Rose [sic], Anne, 13, born in the colony (actually the child of Richard Perkins and Sarah Burgess) Rose [sic], Joseph, 16, born in the colony (actually the child of Richard Perkins and Sarah Burgess) Rose [sic], Jane, 10, born in the colony (actually the child of Richard Perkins and Sarah Burgess) Rose [sic], Margaret, 7, born in the colony (actually the child of Richard Perkins and Sarah Burgess).

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Denis Pember on 25th November 2015

In the colony, Thomas married Elizabeth Bartlett, April 13th 1806, Sydney. They had two children. Elizabeth died in 1826. At the time, Thomas appears to have also 'adopted'? or was at least looking after several other children. Although Thomas Rose had been a property owner in the Appin area for some time prior to 1827, he didn't move there permanently until after the death of his wife Elizabeth in 1826. A situation then existed where Thomas Rose, a 50 year old widower with 6 children aged between 19 and 6 was living some two miles away from Elizabeth Woodhouse (nèe Aiken) aged 31 who had separated from her husband (She described herself as a 'widow' in the 1828 census) with 5 children aged between 11 and 2. Thomas and Elizabeth had a protracted affair resulting in the births of 2 children, Ellen born 25 Dec 1828 and Cyprian Walter 17 Dec 1829. Both children were named Woodhouse. In the meantime, Thomas married Sarah Pye on 21 Sep 1829. They then had 5 children, the last being born when Thomas was 63 years old..

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Denis Pember on 25th November 2015

Thomas was convicted for breaking and entering at Shrewsbury on 19 Mar 1793 and sentenced to death. The sentence was commuted to transportation for life. He was transported aboard the ship 'Barwell' arriving in the colony on 18 May 1798.