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Thomas William Smith
Thomas William Smith, one of 152 convicts transported on the Grenada, May 1819
Name, Aliases & Gender
||Thomas William Smith
Birth, Occupation & Death
|Date of Birth:
|Date of Death:
life span was 61 years*
* Median life span based on contributions
Conviction & Transportation
Sentenced to Life
||Middlesex Gaol Delivery
21st October, 1819
|Place of arrival
||New South Wales
Travelled with 151 other convicts
||Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 88, Class and Piece Number HO11/3, Page Number 156
||This record is one of the entries in the British convict transportation registers 1787-1867 database compiled by State Library of Queensland from British Home Office (HO) records which are available on microfilm as part of the Australian Joint Copying Project.
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Maureen Withey on 13th February, 2020 wrote:
Old Bailey Proceedings Online (http://www.oldbaileyonline.org, version 8.0, 13 February 2020), September 1818, trial of THOMAS WILLIAM SMITH (t18180909-56).
THOMAS WILLIAM SMITH, Royal Offences > coining offences, 9th September 1818.
1117. THOMAS WILLIAM SMITH was indicted for that he, on the 17th of August , at the parish of St. James, Clerkenwell, feloniously did dispose of and put away a certain forged and counterfeited bank note (setting it forth. No. 50,217, 1l. 16th of June, 1818, signed C. Tabor), with intent to defraud the Governor and Company of the Bank of England , knowing it to be forged, against the statute .
SECOND COUNT, for feloniously offering to William Haynes a like forged bank note with the like intent, he knowing it to be forged and counterfeited.
THIRD AND FOURTH COUNTS, the same, only calling the forged instrument a promissory note for payment of money, instead of a bank note.
FOUR OTHER COUNTS, the same, only stating the prisoner’s intent to be to defraud the said William Haynes .
WILLIAM HAYNES. I am a linendraper , and live in the Edgware-road . On the 17th of August, about nine o’clock in the evening, the prisoner came to my shop and bought a handkerchief which came to 2s.; he tended to me a 1l. bank note, I looked at it and told him it was a bad one - He said, “here is another,” which I took and requested his address - He said, ” Thomas Williams , No.5, Queen Anne-street.” I had the first note by itself - I wrote the address on the good one; I wrapped the bad one in it, and put both in my pocket (looking at the notes), this is the first he gave me. I put his name on it at the watch-house before I parted with it. This is the second note he gave me.
Q. Did you say any thing to him - A. I told him that having had so many forged notes, I should see if he had given me a right address; he made no objection to it, but went out of the shop towards Queen Anne-street. When we got into Crawford-street, Montague-square, I had not got hold of him, he said he had taken the note at the Green Man and Still, and wished me to go there with him; I said I should go to the first address. He then said he lived in Castle-street, and I must go there with him; I said I would go nowhere till I had been to the first address; but that I thought it very strange that he should prevaricate in that manner, and if he did not choose to go to the first address he had better surrender himself; upon which he ran from me; we were then at the end of Crawford-street - he ran as fast as he could. I attempted to pursue him, but a man ran against me.
Q. Did that appear by accident or design - A. It was designedly, he crossed directly in front of me, saying-“Which is the thief;” he must have seen the prisoner runing before me. I had called out “Stop thief! stop that man.”
Q. Did the man who ran against you knock you down - A. No; I stumbled, and then pursued the prisoner; he was stopped by a soldier and taken to the watch-house, I never lost sight of him. The watch-house-keeper asked him his name-he said it was Thomas William Smith , he was a shoemaker, and lived in Castle-street.
MARY WALKER . I am servant to Mr. Thomas Nixon . On the 17th of August, he lived at No.5, Queen Anne-street, West; the prisoner did not live there. I do no know him-there was no body but me at the house on the 17th of August; my master was out of town.
WILLIAM HAYNES. I do not know any Queen Anne-street, East; he was going towards Queen Anne-street, West.
JOHN FOY . I am an officer. Queen Anne-street, West, is now called Foley-place, and has been so for six years. There is no Queen Anne-street, East, now.
JOHN BURGER . I belong to the 2d rigiment of Life Guards. On the 17th of August, I saw Mr. Haynes pursuing the prisoner. I heard the cry of Stop thief! stop the man who is runing - I stopped him.
CHARLES CHRISTMAS . I am an inspector of bank notes, the note is forged in every respect-it is not the Bank plate; the paper and signature are also forged.
CHARLES TABOR . I am a signing clerk to the Bank, the note is not signed by me; there is no other clerk of my name.
(The note produced and read.)
Prisoner’s Defence. The note belonged to a young woman, who gave it to me to take care off; I did not know whether I gave him my note or hers. He said it was bad - They were both folded up together in my pocket; I gave him the other saying, “They might be bad for what I knew.” He said he did not think that was good. I was so terrified I did not know what address I had given, but soon after I recollected. He said I must surrender myself. I was frightened, and ran away.
WILLIAM HAYNES. I remember his giving me the second note - He took the good one out of his left hand breeches-pocket, and the bad one from his right. I have a distinct recollection of it.
MARY ANN DAVIS . I am an unfortunate girl, and live in Cherles-street, Drury-lane. I have known the prisoner above a year and half; he used to come backwards and forwards to me. I do not know where he lived; I can neither read nor write.
Q. Did you give him a note at any time - A. Yes, on this day month; he lent me 4s. till he got it changed. It was a 1l. note.
Q. How do you know that - A. He said so. I received it on Sunday night.
Q. Which of these was it (producing both of them) - A. I cannot tell.
GUILTY . - DEATH . Aged 18.
First Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice Bayley.
Colonial secretary Index.
SMITH, Thomas. Per “Grenada”, 1819; husband of Mary, formerly Doyle
1823 Jun 4 - Re permission to marry Mary Doyle at Sydney (Reel 6010; 4/3508 p.435)
1824 c.Apr, Oct 8 - Shoemaker. Assigned convict mechanic whose master was a defaulter in payment for (Reel 6061, 4/1778 p.265i; Fiche 3293, 5/3821.1 p.6)
1825 May 9 - Servant to George Smith of Cockle Bay, shoemaker. Petition of his wife Mary for Thomas to be assigned to her (Fiche 3252; 4/1875 p.212)
Convict Changes History
Maureen Withey on 13th February, 2020 made the following changes: