Charlotte Stroud

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iain Frazier on 8th June 2025

Family connections for Charlotte (Stroud) are: STROUD Charlotte (Stroud), sister of Esther, was born about 1766 in Dublin Ireland. She was tried at Dublin in March 1786, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 18 11 1792 after a voyage of 10months on KITTY, on which she had a first relationship with the KITTYs captain George (Ramsay).>>> [Some details taken from this Website] Charlotte (Stroud) & George (Ramsay) produced 1child: 1.Jane (Ramsay) was born on 26 2 1793 & baptised on 20 4 1793 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. She was later given the name (Loder). She married John (Youl) missionary from Hawkesbury on 31 1 1810 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She died on 19 7 1817 age24. ..John (Youl) was born about 1773 & became a missionary. He arrived in NSW as a missionary on 20 11 1800 after a voyage of 9months on ROYAL ADMIRAL. He ministerd at Hawkesbury. ..Jane (Ramsay/Loder) & John (Youl) produced 5children: ..1.James Arndell (Youl) was born on 28 12 1811 & baptised on 29 3 1812 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. He died on 5 6 1904 age92. ..2.John (Youl) was born 11 8 1812 & baptised on 15 8 1813 age1 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. He died on 28 10 1871 age78. ..3.Jane Matilda (Youl) was born on 2 4 1814 at Pitt Town & baptised on 1 5 1814 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. She died on 16 12 1895 age81. ..4.William (Youl) was born on 10 6 1817 & baptised on 5 8 1817 at St Lukes CofE Liverpool. He died on 21 7 1870 age53. ..5.Elizabeth (Youl) was born on 10 4 1819 & baptised on 26 3 1820 at St Johns CofE Launceston. She died on 25 3 1897 age77. .. >>>Charlotte (Stroud) started a second relationship with George (Loder) in 1795 at Hawkesbury. She was Free by Servitude by 1799. She died on 6 11 1826 age60/1 at Windsor mother of 6children & was buried as (Loder) at St Matthews CofE Windsor. George (Loder/Loader/Sander) was born about 1759 in Somerset & became a cordwainer. He enlisted as private in NSW Corps on 9 6 1789, although this Website indicates he joined the 102nd Regiment in India. He arrived in NSW as a soldier on 9 7 1791 after a voyage of 6months on Fleet ship ADMIRAL BARRINGTON; he was sent on to Norfolk Island, arriving on 11 11 1791, where he served until 9 3 1793 when he was returned to Sydney. In 1794 he was granted 25acres at Lane Cove. In 1795 he was based at Hawkesbury. He reached rank of Corporal in 1798 & was detached to (Paterson)s company. He served for a time as private in 1800 & was detached to (Abbott)s company where he was raised to Corporal again. In 1801 he was detached to (Rowley)s company & in 1802 to (Wilson)s company & is recorded at Hawkesbury again from 1804. On 25 7 1808 he became Sergeant & was detached to (Piper)s company. In 1809 he was detached to 3company & also granted 100acres at Richmond where he stocked 300cattle & he was issued a spirit licence for 1year. In 1809 he also leased 18poles 34roods at Pitts in right of his wife. He was discharged from 73rd Regiment in 1810. He became gaoler at Windsor. He was transferred to Veterans Company in 1811. In 1821 he occupied land at Wilberforce. He died on 18 8 1848 age89 at home of son in law Thomas (Arndell) Cattai Sydney.>>> >>>This Website advises that on his return from Norfolk Island, George (Loder) was promoted to Corporal and put in charge of the Windsor gaol and pound. He rented 130acres from Thomas (Arndell), his father in law, on the River. Promoted to Sergeant, he was sent to Green Hills (later Windsor) around 1803 to assist at the store. Lacking barrack accommodation for his family, he built a house and by 1806 was also cultivating 30 acresof (Arndell)s land at Cattai that he was renting. George (Loder) & Charlotte (Stroud) produced 4children: EXPLORER 1.George (Loder) was born on 24 6 1796 & baptised on 20 12 1796 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. He married Mary (Howe) on 29 5 1816 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. He & his brother accompanied his father in law John (Howe) explorer on both of the expeditions to the Hunter River. In 1818 they discovered the Hunter River & later Patrick’s Plains (now Neotsfield). In 1821 he was granted land in the Hunter as reward for exploration work-near what is now Mt. Thorley near Singleton; & was recorded as a settler. He was recorded in 1824, 1826 & 1828 as a farmer & in 1830 as a publican. He died on 13 8 1834 age about85. ..Mary (Howe) was born on 28 10 1799 in England. She arrived in NSW with her parents on 14 8 1802 after a voyage of 7.5months on COROMANDEL; to Hawkesbury River. ..Details of Mary (Howe)s family are given in entry for Mary (Wilson WILLIAM PITT 1806) on this Website. ..George (Loder) & Mary (Howe) produced at least 5children: ..1.Jane (Loder) was born on 4 7 1821 at Richmond & baptised on 5 8 1821 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. She died on 15 6 1897 age75. ..2.George Thomas (Loder) was born on 25 11 1823 at Portland Head & baptised on 6 1 1824 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. He died on 1901 age about77. ..3.Andrew (Loder) was born on 4 2 1826 at Sackville Reach & baptised on 30 4 1826 w/(Arndell) & other relatives at St Thomas Wesleyan Sackville Reach. He died on 10 5 1900 age74. ..4.Sarah (Loder) was born on 25 6 1828 at Sackville Reach & baptised on 30 7 1828 at St Thomas Wesleyan Sackville Reach. She died on 4 2 1913 age84. ..5.James Mein (Loder) was born on 24 6 1830 & baptised on 1 8 1830 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. .. EXPLORER 2.Andrew (Loder) was born on 8 7 1799 & baptised on 25 12 1799 at St Phillips Cofe Sydney. He had a relationship with Charlotte (Stanley/Miller/Capp her third relationship). He & his brother accompanied his father in law John (Howe) explorer on both of the expeditions to the Hunter River. In 1818 they discovered the Hunter River & later Patrick’s Plains (now Neotsfield). In 1821 he was granted land in the Hunter as reward for exploration work-near what is now Mt. Thorley near Singleton. He was recorded in 1826 as a yeoman & 1829 as a farmer. By 1834 he had cattle runs as far afield as Wee Waa. He died on 6 11 1836 age37. ..Charlotte (Stanley/Miller) was born about 1798/1804 & became a servant. She apparantly married firstly (1of3) ??? (Miller). She was tried w/1other as Charlotte (Stanley alias Miller) for uttering counterfeit coins at General Sessions of the 'Piece' Clerkenwell Middlesex on 17 9 1810, sentenced to 1year in prison plus sureties for 2years. She was tried again w/1other for uttering, on 22 11 1815,-her third conviction-at Old Bailey, sentenced to death reduced to Life, held probably at Middlesex Gaol Delivery & arrived in NSW as a convict on 19 1 1816 after a voyage of 6.5months on MARY ANN; she was a servant. She, as Charlotte (Stanley), married secondly (2of3) Joseph Ivory (Carp/Capp) on 25 10 1819 at St Matthews CofE Windsor & produced 3children. She was recorded as a shopkeeper in 1826. She produced at least 5children in her lifetime. ..[Some information taken from this Website] ..Andrew (Loder) & Charlotte (Miller/Capp) produced at least 2children: ..1.George Andrew (Loder) was born on 14 6 1826 at Windsor & baptised on 3 9 1826 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. He died in 1913 age about85. ..2.Andrew James (Loder) was born on 5 6 1828 at Patricks Plains & baptised on 29 6 1829 at Christ Church Newcastle. He died on 1 5 1866 age38. .. 3.Sarah (Loder) was born on 19 10 1801 & baptised on 28 12 1801 at St Phillips Cofe Sydney. She died in 1887 age38. 4.Sophia (Loder) was born in 1805. She married Thomas (Arndell) on 6 1 1814 at St Matthews CofE Windsor & produced 3children. She died on 24 6 1887 age about81. ..Thomas (Arndell) was born in 1799. He was recorded as Government farmer in 1825. In 1843 he was living at Caddie Creek. In 1848 he was living at Cattai Sydney. He died on 25 2 1865 age about64. ..Details of Thomas (Arndell)s family are given in entry for Elizabeth (Jackson MARQUIS CORNWALLIS 1796) on this Website. DIGHT John (Dight) married Hannah (Hilton). He arrived in NSW as a surgeon with his family on 12 6 1801 after a voyage of 10months on EARL CORNWALLIS. He was recorded in 1826 as yeoman. Hannah (Hilton) arrived in NSW with her family on 12 6 1801 after a voyage of 10months on EARL CORNWALLIS. John (Dight) & Hannah (Hilton) produced 13children: firstly girls 1.Sarah (Dight) was born on 5 3 1800 in England. She arrived in NSW with her parents on 12 6 1801 after a voyage of 10months on EARL CORNWALLIS. She was baptised on 30 11 1806 age6 w/Elizabeth, Mary & Ann at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She died on 17 2 1832 age32-. 2.Elizabeth (Dight) was born on 22 9 1802 & baptised on 30 11 1806 age4 w/Sarah, Mary & Ann at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She married Hamilton (Hume) on 8 11 1825 at St Phillip's CofE Sydney. She died in 1886 age about83. EXPLORER ..Hamilton (Hume) was born on 19 6 1797 at Toongabbie & baptised on 9 7 1797 at St Johns CofE Parramatta & became a lifetime explorer. About 1815 he began exploring the country around Sydney with his brother John. In 1817 he explored with James (Meehan) & Charles (Throsby) finding Lake Bathurst and Goulburn Plains. In 1818 he went with John (Oxley) & James (Meehan) to Jervis Bay. In 1822 he went with Alexander (Berry) to Clyde River & Braidwood & was left with convicts to cut a 209-yard boat canal between the Shoalhaven River and the Crookhaven River. In 1824 he explored the route from Sydney to Port Phillip (now Victoria) with William (Hovell); he was rewarded with a grant of 1,200acres. In 1827 he went with Lieutenant George M. C. (Bowen) to the western Blue Mountains, finding 3passes through the escarpment In 1828 he found the Darling River with (Sturt). He became then a successful pastoralist & magistrate at Yass. He died on 19 4 1873 age75 at Cooma Cottage Yass & was buried at Yass cemetery with his wife; the highway Sydney to Melbourne, Hume Dam and Lake Hume River Murray bear his name. ..Details of Hamilton (Hume)s family are given below. 3.Mary (Dight) was born on 21 9 1804 & baptised on 30 11 1806 age2 w/Sarah, Elizabeth & Ann at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She died on 27 12 1819 age15 & was buried at St Peters CofE Richmond. 4.Ann (Dight) was born on 21 8 1806 & baptised on 30 11 1806 age4 w/Sarah, Elizabeth & Mary at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She died in 1889 age about82. 5.John (Dight) was born on 2 9 1808 at Parramatta & baptised on 28 3 1819 age10 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. He died on 23 4 1867 age54. 6.George (Dight) was born on 20 10 1810 at Richmond & baptised on 17 7 1826 age15 w/Charles Hilton, Samuel Billingsley, Jane, Susannah, Arthur, Frances & Sophia at St Peters CofE Richmond. He died on 26 2 1851 age40. 7.Charles Hilton (Dight) was born on 13 11 1813 at Richmond & baptised on 17 7 1826 age12 w/George, Samuel Billingsley, Jane, Susannah, Arthur, Frances & Sophia at St Peters CofE Richmond. 8.Samuel Billingsley (Dight) was born on 12 3 1815 at Richmond & baptised on 17 7 1826 age11 w/George, Charles Hilton, Jane, Susannah, Arthur, Frances & Sophia at St Peters CofE Richmond. He died on 7 8 1888 age73. 9.Jane (Dight) was born on 15 2 1817 at Richmond & baptised on 17 7 1826 age9 w/George, Charles Hilton, Samuel Billingsley, Susannah, Arthur, Frances & Sophia at St Peters CofE Richmond. 10.Susannah (Dight) was born on 15 2 1817also at Richmond & baptised on 17 7 1826 age9 w/George, Charles Hilton, Samuel Billingsley, Jane, Arthur, Frances & Sophia at St Peters CofE Richmond. 11.Arthur (Dight) was born on 6 6 1819 at Richmond & baptised on 17 7 1826 age7 w/George, Charles Hilton, Samuel Billingsley, Jane, Susannah, Frances & Sophia at St Peters CofE Richmond. He died on 31 7 1895 age74+ 12.Frances (Dight) was born on 10 9 1821 at Richmond & baptised on 17 7 1826 age4 w/George, Charles Hilton, Samuel Billingsley, Jane, Susannah, Arthur & Sophia at St Peters CofE Richmond. 13.Sophia (Dight) was born on 25 11 1823 at Richmond & baptised on 17 7 1826 age2 w/George, Charles Hilton, Samuel Billingsley, Jane, Susannah, Arthur & Frances at St Peters CofE Richmond. She died on 6 10 1899 age75. KENNEDY James Raworth (Kennedy) was born about 1754. He married Eleanor (???). He arrived in NSW as a settler with his children & relations on 5 11 1795 after a voyage of 11months on SOVEREIGN. He was recorded as a gent when he died on 24 7 1826 age72 at Windsor & was buried at St Matthews CofE Windsor. Eleanor (???) did not travel to Australia. James Raworth (Kennedy) & Eleanor (???) produced 2children: 1.Jane (Kennedy) was born in 1787 in Kent. She arrived in NSW with her father & relations on 5 11 1795 after a voyage of 11months on SOVEREIGN. She was living at Parramatta when she married John (Howe his third marriage) of Windsor on 13 5 1811 at St Johns CofE Parramatta & produced 9children. She died on 1 1 1859 age75 at Warkworth. ..John (Howe) son of John (How) & Mary (Roberts) was born 1n 1774 maybe in Redbourn Hertfordshire & became a grocer. He married firstly Frances (Ward) in UK. He arrived in NSW as a settler/emigrant with his family on 14 8 1802 after a voyage of 7.5months on COROMANDEL; to a grant of 100acres at Mulgrave Place Hawkesbury River. He married secondly Mary (Wilson her second (2of3) marriage) on 13 4 1807 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He became a building contractor, auctioneer, chief constable and coroner. He was living in Windsor in 1811. In October 1818 he explored the hinterland to find new country with his sons-in-law George & Andrew (Loder), Thomas (Dargin), Benjamin (Singleton), and 2servant men & an aboriginal guide-discovering the Hunter River. He later explored again in 1821 with his sons-in-law George & Andrew (Loder), Thomas (Dargin), Benjamin (Singleton), Philip (Shirley), Daniel (Phillips), Samuel (Marshall), W. (Osborne) & 2aboriginal guides-discovering Patrick’s Plains (now Neotsfield). He was granted 700acres in the Hunter area as reward, which he named 'Redbourneberry'. In 1824 he was granted 500acres more & recorded as Chief Constable. Places with his name include Howe’s Valley, Howe’s Mountain, Howe’s Water Hole, Howe Park in Singleton. In 1839 he retired to Raworth a small farm near Morpeth. He died on 19 12 1852 age about78 father of 10children & was buried at St James Morpeth. He is memorialised as a founding member of Presbyterian Church at Ebenezer (Scots Kirk Portland Head?). ..Details of John (Howe)s family are given in entry for Mary (Wilson WILLIAM PITT 1806) on this Website. .. 2.Louisa Sophia (Kennedy) was born in 1790 in Kent. She arrived in NSW with her father on 5 11 1795 after a voyage of 11months on SOVEREIGN. +++ +++ also-a relation?==maybe aunt of Jane (Kennedy), sister of John (Kennedy)---------> Elizabeth More (Kennedy) was born about 1760, perhaps in Kent. She arrived in NSW as a settler on 5 11 1795 after a voyage of 11months on SOVEREIGNalso. She married Andrew Hamilton (Hume) on 29 9 1796 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She was appointed senior mistress of the Orphan School, but in about 1800 she retired because of 'some unpleasant domestic circumstances and increase of family'. At some point (perhaps 1810) she was granted 60acres at Prospect Hill. She died in 1847 age about87. Andrew Hamilton (Hume) was born about 1762 in Co.Down Ireland. He became a Superintendent of convicts after briefly being a soldier. He arrived in NSW as an official on 3 6 1790 after a total voyage of 11months partly on GUARDIAN, which struck an iceberg off Cape of Good Hope; he was taken to the Cape & embarked on Fleet ship LADY JULIANA-a ship with 228females who easily entertained the whole crew & also sailors at Teneriffe stopover; arriving in NSW on 3 6 1790; he was known to have a knowledge of flax production. He was sent to Norfolk Island on SURPRISE, arriving in August 1790 to produce flax-which he did unprofitably at Cascades, returning to Sydney on 9 3 1793 on KITTY, where he was appointed superintendent of convicts at Toongabbie Parramatta & granted 30acres in 1793. In 1798 he was appointed store-keeper at Parramatta, but was soon tried & acquitted for 'malversation of public property in the Parramatta Granary', then dismissed for 'irregularities in his administration'. In 1800 he was appointed superintendent of livestock, but was soon tried & acquitted for rape, then again dismissed as a 'worthless character'. He then settled at Hawkesbury River, lost everything twice by fire and once in 1806 by floods. He was arrested for support of William (Bligh). He was reinstated as superintendent of stock, but was dismissed again for 'indications of dishonesty'. In 1811 he was granted 100acres at Appin. He died on 23 9 1849 age about87 at daughters residnce at Glenrock. Elizabeth More (Kennedy) & Andrew Hamilton (Hume) produced 5children: mostly boys EXPLORER 1.Hamilton (Hume) was born on 19 6 1797 at Toongabbie & baptised on 9 7 1797 at St Johns CofE Parramatta & became a lifetime explorer. About 1815 he began exploring the country around Sydney with his brother John. In 1817 he explored with James (Meehan) & Charles (Throsby) finding Lake Bathurst and Goulburn Plains. In 1818 he went with John (Oxley) & James (Meehan) to Jervis Bay. In 1822 he went with Alexander (Berry) to Clyde River & Braidwood, where he was left with convicts to cut a 209-yard boat canal between the Shoalhaven River and the Crookhaven River. In 1824 he explored the route from Sydney to Port Phillip (now Victoria) with William (Hovell); he was rewarded with a grant of 1,200acres. He married Elizabeth (Dight) of Windsor on 8 11 1825 at St Phillip's CofE Sydney. In 1827 he went with Lieutenant George M. C. (Bowen) to the western Blue Mountains, finding 3passes through the escarpment. In 1828 he found the Darling River with (Sturt). He became then a successful pastoralist & magistrate at Yass. He died on 19 4 1873 age75 at Cooma Cottage Yass & was buried at Yass cemetery with his wife; the highway Sydney to Melbourne, Hume Dam and Lake Hume River Murray bear his name. ..Elizabeth (Dight) was born on 22 9 1802 & baptised on 30 11 1806 age4 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She died about 1886 age about84 & was buried at Yass cemetery with her husband. ..Details of Elizabeth (Dight)s family are given above. .. 2.Isabella (Hume) was born on 13 12 1798 & baptised on 16 12 1798 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She was living at Appin when she married George (Barber) farmer of 'Glenfield' Liverpool on 6 2 1815 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. In 1849 she was living at Glenrock. She died on 5 8 1855 age56. ..George (Barber/Barker) was born about 1796. He arrived in NSW as a settler on 28 7 1814 after a voyage of 6months on BROXBOURNEBURY. He was a farmer at Glenrock Marulan/'Glenfield' Liverpool in 1815. He was recorded, as (Barker), in 1827 & 1830 as a settler. ..Isabella (Hume) & George (Barber/Barker) produced at least 8children: ..1.George Hume (Barber/Barker) was born on 28 4 1816 & baptised on 25 3 1818 age2m w/Jane Kennedy at St Lukes CofE Liverpool. He died on 10 3 1884 age67. ..2.Jane Kennedy (Barber/Barker) was born on 26 2 1818 & baptised on 25 3 1818 w/George Humeat St Lukes CofE Liverpool. She died in 1892 age about74. ..3.Charles Henry (Barber/Barker) was born in 1820. ..4.Ann Elizabeth (Barber) was born in 1822 at Bunbury Curran & baptised, as (Barker), on 9 1 1822 at St Marys RC Sydney. ..5.Mary Romaine (Barber) was born in February 1824 at Argyle & baptised, as (Barker), on 13 10 1824 at St Marys RC Sydney. She died on 9 2 1907 age about83. ..6.Thomas Andrew (Barber) was born on 16 5 1827 at Argyle & baptised, as (Barker), on 22 2 1827 at St Marys RC Sydney. ..7.John Joseph (Barber) was born on 29 4 1828 at Parramatta & baptised, as (Barker), on 13 2 1829 at St Marys RC Sydney. He died in 1859 age about31. ..8.Isabella (Barber) was born on 19 9 1829 at Argyle & baptised, as (Barker), on 12 2 1830 at St Marys RC Sydney. .. 3.John Kennedy (Hume) was born in 1800 at Toongabbie Sydney. About 1815 he began exploring the country around Sydney with his brother Hamilton. He married Elizabeth (O'Neill/Pendergast) on 7 10 1825 at St Marys RC Sydney. He was recorded in 1826 as a settler. He died on 20 1 1840 age about40, shot by bushrangers at Gunning. ..Elizabeth (O'Neil/l/Pendergast) was born about 1802sic. She died in 1864 age about62. ..Details of Elizabeth (O'Neil)s family are given in entry for Felix (O'Neill ATLAS 1802) on this Website. ..John Kennedy (Hume) & Elizabeth (O'Neill/Pendergast) produced 10children: [Noted these details are from Smees records-they differ from information available on the Internet] ..1.Elizabeth (Hume) was born in 1824 at Appin & baptised on 30 10 1824 at St Marys RC Sydney. ..2.Mary Ann (Hume) was born on 8 2 1826 at Campbelltown & baptised on 14 3 1826 at St Marys RC Sydney. He died on 6 11 1911 age85. ..3.Jane (Hume) was born on 11 6 1827 at Appin & baptised on 27 2 1828 at St Marys RC Sydney. ..4.Andrew Hamilton (Hume) was born in 1828. She died in 1859 age about1. ..5.-10.??? (Hume) .. 4.Andrew (Hume) was born in 1802. He died on 15 10 1808 age6 & was buried at St Johns CofE Parramatta. 5.Francis Rawdon (Hume) was born on 13 11 1803 & baptised on 1 1 1807 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He married Emma (Mitchell age16) on 12 10 1830 at Scots Kirk Sydney. He died on 17 9 1888 age44. ..Emma (Mitchell) was born on 8 9 1815 at Minto/Airds & baptised on 7 3 1816 (&/or 19 6 1820 w/Thomas &/or 19 6 1824 w/Thomas-from Smee) at St Marys RC Sydney. She died in 1896 age about80. ..Details of Emma (Mitchell)s family are given in entry for Louisa (Le Sage INDISPENSIBLE 1796) on this Website. +++ +++ also-a relation?==maybe aunt of Jane (Kennedy), sister of John (Kennedy)---------> Eliza Charlotte (Kennedy) was born about 1766. She arrived in NSW as a settler on 5 11 1795 after a voyage of 11months on SOVEREIGNalso. She married firstly Roper/Roger (Simpson) on 14 1 1802 at St Johns CofE Parramatta.>>> Roper/Roger (Simpson) arrived in Australia as ships master in 1801 on NAUTILUS. He died on 18 5 1804 & was buried at St Phillips CofE Sydney. Eliza Charlotte (Kennedy) & Roper/Roger (Simpson) produced 1child: 1.Edward Raworth (Simpson) was born on 21 6 1804 & baptised at St Phillips CofE Sydney. 2?.Noted an Ann (Simpson) is recorded as born in 180x's-no parents given. .. >>>Eliza Charlotte (Kennedy) married secondly William (Broughton his second relationship) of Sydney on 4 12 1810 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She produced 6children in her lifetime. William (Broughton) was born about 1768. He arrived in NSW free as surgeons servant on 22 1 1788 after a voyage of 8months on First Fleet ship CHARLOTTE. He had a first relationship with Elizabeth (Heathorn/Glossop); Rev. (Fulton)s records on Norfolk Island indicate they were married. He was appointed acting Deputy Commissary about February 1799 & arrived on Norfolk Island in 1801. He was misused in his job between September 1803 & February 1804 by the acting OIC Ralph (Wilson). He is recorded in February 1805 as storekeeper on Norfolk Island, a job in which he continued to be employed. He left Norfolk Island with most of his children on 3 9 1808 on CITY OF EDINBURGH to Derwent Tasmania arriving on 2 10 1808. He was living in Sydney in 1810. He died on 25 7 1821 age53 father of 11children, mostly girls. [Elizabeth (Heathorn/Glossop) as Ann (Glossop) aka Elizabeth (Heathorn) was tried at Montgomery Great Sessions Wales, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 14 2 1792 after a voyage of 8.5months on PITT; much fever & attempts to escape from the ship resulted in deaths of convicts-of the 450convicts on board only 29 were alive at muster in May 1792 (or perhaps only this many could be mustered). She was Free by Servitude by 1795. She apparantly went to Norfolk Island about 1801. Ann (Glossip) was recorded in February 1805 as convict expired on Norfolk Island. She left with her daughter Elizabeth in December 1807. In October 1809 she left Port Jackson with her daughter Elizabeth on BOYD, intending to return to UK via New Zealand where the ship was captured & most on board massacred by Maoris. She died on 1 11 1809. [However, the Ref:...' shows her as leaving Norfolk Island on 3 9 1808 on CITY OF EDINBURGH to Derwent Tasmania arriving on 5 10 1808.] [Some details taken from this Website] .. [Noted the Ref:'People...' shows evidence of Mary (Heathorn) not being Mary (Glossop/ip wife/partner of William (Broughton) as:] [a Mary Anne (Heathern) born 27 6 1792 on NI could not be Anne (Glossip)s as she was still on the PITT & anyway conception in England does not fit with William (Broughton)s movements. Also, an Elizabeth (Heathorn) is recorded at St Phillips CofE Register in Sydney in 1807 while Anne (Glossip) was on Norfolk Island-however, it is also known that Norfolk Island matters were often recorded in Sydney rather than on NI. Why the (Heathorn) name appears as an alias on this Website is not clear to me.] [This reference also shows both Elizabeth (Heathorn)s name & Ann (Glossip)s name as partners of William (Broughton)] [Noted the Ref:'Forgotten..' also links Elizabeth (Heathorn)s name with Ann (Glossip).] .. [William (Broughton) & Elizabeth (Heathorn/Glossop/ip) produced 6children: mostly girls] [1.Mary Ann (Broughton) was born on 27 6 1792 or 27 2 1793. She would have been taken to Norfolk Island by her parents about 1801. She was baptised on 18 9 1801 age8 on Norfolk Island. She is recorded perhaps as Ann (Glossip) child off stores in February 1805 on Norfolk Island. She left Norfolk Island with her father on 3 9 1808 on CITY OF EDINBURGH to Derwent Tasmania, arriving on 5 10 1808. She married Thomas (Carne) Lieutenant 46th Regiment on 6 1 1816 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. She died in 1872 age about79.] [..Thomas (Carne) was born about 1787. He arrved in Australia as an officer in 1814 on WYNDHAM. He was a Lieutenant by 1822.] [..Mary Ann (Broughton) & Thomas (Carne) produced 4children:] [..1.Thomas Broughton (Carne) was born on 28 9 1816 & baptised on 29 10 1816 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. He died on 8 4 1886 age69.] [..2.Elizabeth Sophia (Carne) was born on 14 7 1818 & baptised on 28 9 1818 at St Lukes CofE Liverpool. She died on 7 5 1896 age77.] [..3.Joseph William (Carne) was born on 1 11 1823 & baptised on 23 5 1823 at St Lukes CofE Liverpool. He died on 28 6 1894 age71. ] [..4.Eleanor Australia (Carne) was born on 7 9 1826. She died in 1911 age about84.] .. [2.Sarah (Broughton) was born in 1795. She died on 13 2 1795 age <2m. [3.Sarah (Broughton) was born on 13/14 9 1799. She would have been taken to Norfolk Island by her parents about 1801. She was baptised on 13 9 1802 age3! w/William Henry on Norfolk Island. She left Norfolk Island with her father on 3 9 1808 on CITY OF EDINBURGH to Derwent Tasmania, arriving on 5 10 1808. She married Charles Throsby (Smith) on 22 10 1822 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown. She died on 26 12 1838 age38.] [..Charles Throsby (Smith) was born about 1798. He arrived in Australia free in 1816 on GUILDFORD. He is recorded in 1828 as a farmer at Camden Illawarra.] [..Sarah (Broughton) & Charles Throsby (Smith) produced at least 3children: girls] [..1.Eliza Clarissa (Smith) was born on 2 2 1826 & baptised on 26 2 1826 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown.] [..2.Maria Rebecca (Smith) was born on 11 1 1828 at Wollongong & baptised on 2 3 1828 or 29 8 1830 age2 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown Illawarra. She died on 10 6 1921 age93.] [..3.Emma Broughton (Smith) was born on 29 3 1830 & baptised on 29 8 1830 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown.] .. [4.William Henry (Broughton) was born on 15 5 1802 on Norfolk Island & baptised on 13 9 1802 w/Sarah. He is recorded as child off stores in February 1805 on Norfolk Island. He left Norfolk Island with his father on 3 9 1808 on CITY OF EDINBURGH to Derwent Tasmania, arriving on 5 10 1808. He married Mary (Ward) on 2 4 1827 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown. He died on 5 9 1858 age56.] [..Mary (Ward) was born in 1805. She arrived in NSW with her parents on 27 1 1815 after a journey of 5months on MARQUIS OF WELLINGTON.] [..Details of Mary (Ward)s family are given below.] [..William Henry (Broughton) & Mary (Ward) produced at least 2children:] [..1.William Henry (Broughton) was born on 16 4 1828 & baptised on 28 9 1828 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown. He died on 13 5 1904 age76.] [..2.Frances (Broughton) was born on 2 8 1830 & baptised on 26 9 1830 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown;(however he is listed in baptismal records in 1829 listing in group ceremony at the church). He died on 13 5 1904 age76. ] .. [5.Rebecca (Broughton) was born on 5 9 1804 on Norfolk Island & baptised on 10 10 1804. She is recorded as child off stores in February 1805 on Norfolk Island. She left Norfolk Island with her father on 3 9 1808 on CITY OF EDINBURGH to Derwent Tasmania, arriving on 5 10 1808. She married Cornelius (O'Brien) on 14 10 1822 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown. She died on 12 12 1888 age83.] [..Cornelius (O'Brien) was born about 1796. He arrived in Australia free on ATLAS.] [..Noted Brian (O'Brian) & Thomas (O'Brien) are recorded as convicts on voyages of ATLAS about 1802 & Michael (O'Brian) is also recorded as a convict on the same ships in 1802, & could be related] .. [6.Elizabeth Isabelle (Broughton) was born on 4 2 1807 presumably on Norfolk Island. She left Norfolk Island with her mother in December 1807. In October 1809 she left Port Jackson with her mother on BOYD, intending to return to UK via New Zealand where the ship was captured & most on board massacred by Maoris; she was among the children spared. She was taken on CITY OF EDINBURGH, intending to continue to UK, via Peru, which was damaged at Cape Horn & diverted to Peru. She was looked after by a Spanish couple in Peru who returned her to her grateful father in Sydney, arriving in March 1812. She was baptised on 28 9 1813 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. She married Charles (Throsby) on 28 8 1824 at St Lukes CofE Liverpool.] [..Charles (Throsby) was born about 1799. He arrived in NSW free on 29 3 1820 after a voyage of 4.5months on MANGLES.] [..Elizabeth Isabelle (Broughton) & Charles (Throsby) produced at least 4children: mostly boys] [..1.Charles (Throsby) was born on 19 8 1825 & baptised on 2 12 1825 at St Lukes CofE Liverpool. He died on 9 3 1860 age34. ] [..2.Jane (Throsby) was born on 29 9 1826 & baptised on 26 12 1826 at St Lukes CofE Liverpool. She died on 29 9 1880 age54!. ] [..3.William (Throsby) was born on 22 12 1828 & baptised on 24 3 1829 at St Lukes CofE Liverpool. He died on 16 10 1848 age19. ] [..4.John Henry (Throsby) was born on 13 12 1830 & baptised on 10 2 1831 at St Lukes CofE Liverpool. He died on 25 4 1848 age17.] .. .. Eliza Charlotte (Kennedy) & William (Broughton) produced 5children: mostly boys 1.James Gordon (Broughton) was born on 22 10 1811 & baptised on 11 3 1812 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. He died on 16 3 1833 age21. 2.Frances Matilda (Broughton) was born on 24 2 1814 & baptised on 28 4 1814 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. She died in 1893 age about79. 3.Emma Carne (Broughton) was born on 10 8 1815 & baptised on 6 1 1816 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. She died on 17 2 1893 age about77. 4.John Archer (Broughton) was born on 11 12 1818 & baptised on 15 12 1818 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. He is also recorded as baptised on 4 11 1820 age22m w/Robert Kennedy at St Lukes CofE Liverpool. He died on 25 12 1878 age60+. 5.Robert Kennedy (Broughton) was born on 6 9 1820 & baptised on 4 11 1820 w/John Archer at St Lukes CofE Liverpool. He died on 8 9 1876 age56+. +++ +++ also-a relation?==maybe brother of Elizabeth More (Kennedy)---------> John (Kennedy) was born about 1781. He arrived in NSW as a settler on 5 11 1795 after a voyage of 11months on SOVEREIGNalso. He married Caroline (Best/Catapodi age16) on 30 8 1813 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. He was recorded in 1828 & 1830 as a farmer. Caroline (Best/Catapodi) was born on 11 3 1797 in England. She arrived in NSW with her mother free on 18 7 1798 after a voyage of 6.5 months on BRITANNIA. She was baptised on 10 7 1803 age6 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She used the surname (Byrne/Burn). She died on 5 4 1869 age72. Details of Caroline (Best/Catapodi)s family are given in entry for Sarah (Best BRITANNIA 1798) on this Website. John (Kennedy) & Caroline (Best/Catapodi) produced at least 8children: 1.Eliza Matilda (Kennedy) was born on 19 3 1816 & baptised on 11 6 1816 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. 2.John (Kennedy) was born on 3 11 1817 & baptised on 9 12 1817 at St Lukes CofE Liverpool. 3.Eleanor (Kennedy) was born on 3 11 1819 & baptised on 18 6 1822 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown. 4.James Thomas (Kennedy) was born on 4 9 1821 & baptised on 18 6 1822 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. He died on 15 2 1881 age59. 5.Caroline Amelia (Kennedy) was born on 4 10 1824 & baptised on 29 3 1825 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown. 6.Robert (Kennedy) was born on 3 9 1826 at Appin & baptised on 30 3 1828 age18m at St Peters CofE Campbelltown. He died on 16 1 1895 age68. 7.Mary (Kennedy) was born on 21 6 1828 at Appin & baptised on 28 9 1828 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown (no minister present). 8.William (Kennedy) was born on 9 5 1830 at Appin & baptised on 27 6 1830 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown. WARD John (Ward) married Catherine (Browne/O'Brien). He arrived in NSW as a merchant with his family on 27 1 1815 after a journey of 5months on MARQUIS OF WELLINGTON. Catherine (Browne/O'Brien) arrived in NSW with her family on 27 1 1815 after a journey of 5months on MARQUIS OF WELLINGTON. John (Ward) & Catherine (Browne/O'Brien) produced 1child: 1.Mary (Ward) was born in 1805. She arrived in NSW with her parents on 27 1 1815 after a journey of 5months on MARQUIS OF WELLINGTON. She married William Henry (Broughton) on 2 4 1827 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown & produced at least 2children. ..William Henry (Broughton) was born on 15 5 1802 on Norfolk Island & baptised on 13 9 1802. He is recorded as child off stores in February 1805 on Norfolk Island. He left Norfolk Island with his father on 3 9 1808 on CITY OF EDINBURGH to Derwent Tasmania, arriving on 5 10 1808. He died on 5 9 1858 age56. ..Details of William Henry (Broughton)s family are given above. References: Craig James Smee 'Births and Baptisms Marriages and Defacto Relationships Deaths and Burials New South Wales 1788-1830' ..a complete listing from church & other records in the early colony. Irene Schaffer & Thelma McKay 'Exiled Three Times Over! Profiles of Norfolk Islanders Exiled in Van Diemens Land 1807-1813' James Hugh Donohoe 'Norfolk Island 1788-1813-The People and Their Families' Reg Wright 'Forgotten Generation of Norfolk Island & Van Diemens Land' Pamela Statham 'A Colonial Regiment-New Sources Relating to the New South Wales Corps-1789-1810' Clem Sargent 'Colonial Garrison 1817-1824-48th foot Northamptonshire Regiment in the colony of New South Wales'

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Phil Hands on 16th September 2017

Tried and convicted in Dublin in March 1786, sentenced to transportation for 7 years. Left England on 31st March 1792. Ship:- the 'Kitty' sailed with 10 male and 30 female convcits on board of which 3 females died during the voyage and 8 male convicts were reported to have escaped. Arrived on 18 th November 1792. Married soldier George Loder in 1795, they had 4 children between 1796-1805. Charlotte is said to have had a relationship with the master of the ship, George Ramsay, which resulted in the birth of her daughter Jane, who subsequently took the name of Charlotte's husband - 'Loder'. George Loder arrived in the colony aboard the ship 'Admiral Barrington' as a soldier with the Third Fleet. He had enlisted in India in the 102nd Regiment of the New South Wales Corps. He petitioned to be transferred to Australia, and was sent to Norfolk Island as 'Private George Loder, New South Wales Corps' with convicts from 1791 to 1793. On his return from Norfolk Island, he was promoted to Corporal and put in charge of the Windsor gaol and pound. He rented 130 acres of land from Thomas Arndell on the River. Promoted to Sergeant, he was sent to Green Hills (later Windsor) around 1803 to assist Baker at the store. Lacking barrack accommodation for his family, he built a house and by 1806 was also cultivating 30 acres of Arndell's land at Cattai that he was renting. Macquarie sanctioned his discharge from the departing Corps in 1820, for Loder did not choose to join the semi-retired Veteran Company. In 1821 he occupied land in the district of Wilberforce. In reward for six years of faithful service in the store, he received in 1809 a 100 acre grant at Richmond whereon to run the '300 Head of Horned Cattle and one Horse, with other Stock' which he now owned. He was also awarded a spirit licenced although this was not renewed when Macquarie axed the inns. Charlotte and George's 2 sons, George & Andrew accompanied the explorer John Howe on both of Howe's expeditions to the Hunter River, (Howe was George's father-in-law) John Howe, the discoverer of Patrick's Plains had emigrated to New South Wales with his daughter Mary, in 1801, and, with other free settlers, had a grant of land given to him on the Hawkesbury River. More good grazing country was wanted for the settlers' stock, and in October, 1818, a small party, led by Mr. John Howe, started to try and find new country. The party consisted of Mr. John Howe, the leader, Mr. George Loder, his son-in-law, Mr Andrew Loder, brother of George, Mr. Thos. Dargin, Mr. Benjamin Singleton, and two servant men, Milward and Berry, and an aboriginal guide, Miles. After encountering much difficulties in crossing an unknown mountainous country, they came to what is known as Doyle's Creek, above Jerry's Plains, and followed it down to the river, now known as the Hunter. They followed the river down for a few miles, and then returned home and spread the good news of their discovery. Shortly afterwards Mr. Howe led a larger party to the new country. The party consisted of Mr. John Howe, George and Andrew Loder, Thomas Dargin, Benjamin Singleton, Philip Shirley, Daniel Phillips, Samuel Marshall, W. Osborne, and two aboriginal guides. On his second expedition Mr. Howe came down by the Bulga, crossed the Cockfighter (or Wollombi Brook) and followed the river down, and came to high land in front of Neotsfield on the 17th March, and in honor of Ireland's great saint named the place (now known as Neotsfield) Patrick's Plains. The party followed the river down to where the town of West Maitland now stands, and came upon a party of sawyers, and they then knew that they were not far from the convict settlement of Port Hunter (now called Newcastle). They then retraced their steps to the Hawkesbury. The native name of the new country discovered by Mr. Howe was Camilaray. Three places on the Bulga road bear the discover's name to this day- viz., Howe's Valley, Howe's Mountain, Howe's Water Hole. Howe Park in Singleton is also, named after him In 1821, all who participated were granted land in the Hunter by Governor Macquarie as a reward for their efforts. George and Andrew Loder took up land around what is now Mt. Thorley, about 10 Kilometres south-west of Singleton. By 1834 Andrew had cattle runs as far afield as Wee Waa. Charlotte died in 1826 at Windsor age 60. George Loder died on 18th August 1848 at Cattai, a suburb of Sydney age 89. Sydney Morning Herald, 21st August 1848, p 3. On the 18th instant, at the residence of his son-in-law, Mr. Thomas Arndell, Caddai, Mr. George Loder, aged 89, a respected colonist of about fifty-six years' standing, leaving a large circle of relations to deplore his loss.

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Dennis Nightingale on 24th June 2016

Born - Dublin Ireland. Died - Windsor NSW.