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Andrew Tiffin

Andrew Tiffin, one of 300 convicts transported on the General Hewett, August 1813

Name, Aliases & Gender

Name: Andrew Tiffin
Aliases: Andrew, Greenlow
Gender: m

Birth, Occupation & Death

Date of Birth: 1788
Occupation: -
Date of Death: -
Age: -

Life Span

Life span

Male median life span was 51 years*

* Median life span based on contributions

Conviction & Transportation

Sentence Severity

Sentence Severity

Sentenced to Life

Crime: Returning from transportation
Convicted at: Middlesex Gaol Delivery
Sentence term: Life
Ship: General Hewett
Departure date: August, 1813
Arrival date: 7th February, 1814
Place of arrival New South Wales
Passenger manifest Travelled with 300 other convicts

References

Primary source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 87, Class and Piece Number HO11/2, Page Number 120
Source description: This record is one of the entries in the British convict transportation registers 1787-1867 database compiled by State Library of Queensland from British Home Office (HO) records which are available on microfilm as part of the Australian Joint Copying Project.

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Beth Kebblewhite on 9th June, 2013 wrote:

Andrew reached Sydney in 1814 on the General Hewitt as a convict with a life term. This was not Andrew’s first visit to NSW: in 1809 he had been convicted in London, given a death sentence for breaking & entering, which was commuted on condition of being transported for life and he was sent to NSW. The Police recognised him back in London in 1812 and Andrew told the Judge: “I am not able to express myself properly. I hope you will read this appeal. This paper will shew (sic) that it was unavoidable, my coming back to this country”.1 It is not known what reason Andrew had, but because he had broken the original conditions of his life being spared, he was again sentenced to be hanged. Fortunately Andrew had been given a good character reference from Richard Smith, who had been in charge of the convict hulk where Andrew had stayed in 1809 and the Court showed him mercy, sending him again to Sydney.
Andrew was working as a tanner when he married Jane Ruth (arrived as a convict on the ship “Broxbornebury” in 1814)in 1815 but a year later, in 1816, Andrew was listed in the newspaper as a runaway convict, described as 29 years-old, dark complexion, dark brown hair, hazel eyes and “a little pock-marked”. There is no record of Andrew’s death and it is possible he escaped back to England.

Maureen Withey on 28th January, 2021 wrote:

THOMAS BOLTON, ANDREW TIFFEN, Theft > burglary, 12th April 1809.
339. THOMAS BOLTON and ANDREW TIFFEN were indicted for burglariously breaking and entering the dwelling house of William Salmon , about the hour of nine at night on the 1st of March, with intent the goods and chattels therein feloniously and burglariously to steal .
WILLIAM SALMON . I live at 54, Goswell street, in the parish of St. Luke ; I keep the whole house; the shop is the lower part. I keep a butter, cheese, and bacon shop .
Q. Were you in your shop when somebody came into it - A. I was in the parlour, my parlour has a glass door to it.
Q. What day was this - A. On the 1st of March, a few minutes after nine in the evening; I am sure of it, the watch was set.
Q. Had you any candles alight in your shop - A. Yes, for two hours or more; it was quite dark.
Q. Your parlour is behind your shop, and separated from your shop by a glass door, is it - A. Yes.
Q. And none of your people were in your shop - were they - A. No.
Q. Had you been in the shop any time before - A. Yes, about three or four or five minutes, I cannot exactly say; no longer. I was in the shop, I let a customer out and fastened the door after them; I am sure that I shut the door myself and fastened it with the latch.
Q. Is your shop door one door, not a hatch at the bottom - A. No, it is all one door, a glass door.
Q. When you were in this parlour did you hear any thing - A. When I was in the parlour I heard somebody spring the latch.
Q. You heard the latch of the shop door - A. I heard the latch of the shop door; I turned my head, I did not rise out of the chair; I looked through the glass door, I did not see any one come in, I saw the door go, I could see over the bottom of the door.
Q. Did you see whether the shop door was open - A. It was perfectly open when I turned my head; I did not get off my chair till a gentleman came past; he sung out to me there is a thief in your shop; he was at the door; I believe he stepped in the shop; I got up and went into the shop when I heard the gentleman speak; the gentleman catched this man upon his hands and knees.
Q. Did you see him - A. No.
Q. Then tell me what yoo saw - A. I saw the gentleman had got the man by the collar; I saw a gentleman in my shop, he had hold of the prisoner Bolton.
Q. How far had the gentleman come in the shop - had he got within the door of your shop, or was it at the door that he had got hold of him - A. He was about a yard within the door way; the gentleman had hold of Bolton by the collar, Bolton had been down upon his hands and knees; he gave the alarm to me, I catched hold of Bolton by the collar, half outside of the door; the gentleman said there was another; I did not see another in the shop, or looking in at the window. Immediately after that I left Bolton in the shop with my wife.
Q. Did you shut the door, or any thing - A. No.
Q. And he staid quietly in the soop, did he - A. No, he ran away.
Q. Where did you go to when you left him in the shop with your wife - A. I went to the gentleman that Tiffen insulted outside of the shop.
Q. How far off did you catch hold of Tiffen - A. He run about a hundred yards, I saw him running; the gentleman said he was the man; he and another tried to strike the gentleman three or four times. I got him by the collar myself, and resigned him to the watchman.
Q. Did you then come back to your shop - A. No. I did not; he got away from the watchman, he stripped himself of his clothes, I saw him pull of his clothes; he crossed Goswell street and went up Gee street. I followed him.
Q. Did you see him taken - A. Yes; Lewis, a black man, took him; I am sure he was the same man; he was brought back and taken to the watchhouse, from there, after he was put in the watchhouse, he was taken to Clerkenwell prison; I accompanied him there; he struggled, we were obliged to tie his hands. While I was at the watchhouse Bolton got away.
Q. That you know nothing about - A. No.
Q. You did not find Bolton in your shop - A. No; Bolton came up to the watchhouse door while I was there present - I said this is the man that I had by the collar in the shop; then he went towards Whitecross street, he on the right hand pavement and I down on the horseway; I got before him and caught him by the collar, and brought him back to the watchhouse. I am sure he is the same man. I told him he was my prisoner, that he was the man which the gentleman caught on his hands and knees in my shop. Then I brought him to the watchhouse.
Q. In your shop you have cheese, butter, and bacon - A. Yes.
Q. You go through the shop into the house to go up stairs - A. Yes. I have been robbed twice before.
Tiffen. The gentleman says I was apprehended by a black man. Lewis can testily that he never apprehended me.
Prosecutor. Lewis is not here.
COURT. Are you sure he is the same man that was apprehended - A. Yes.
Q. What is the name of the person that came into the shop - A. Mr. Dennet.
Tiffen. I would wish to ask the prosecutor if he ever saw me at his shop - A. I never saw him to my knowledge before.
Tiffen. Nor you never saw me in company with this man - A. I never saw either of the prisoners before to my knowledge.
JOHN DENNET. Q. Do you know the shop of Mr. Salmon in Goswell street - A. Yes.
Q. Do you recollect going by one evening, and seeing somebody in the shop - A. Yes; on the 1st of March, a little after nine in the evening.
Q. What, were you walking along the street - A. Yes. On the 1st of March, a little after nine in the evening, just as I came to Mr. Salmon’s shop, I saw something going up the three steps of the shop, it looked something black, like a great dog; I stopped to look, I thought it was a very large dog, I stood a moment, I perceived it was a man upon his hands and knees going into the shop; the shop door at that time was open, and it struck me that it was a man going to rob the shop. I stepped back just round the door post, there was a passage close to it.
Q. You stepped back to watch - A. Yes, to watch. I cast my eye along the front of the window, I saw another man looking into the shop window; the other man then came from she shop window - Tiffen did.
Q. Was Tiffen the other man - A. Yes.
Q. You did not know him before, did you - A. Yes, I have seen him before.
Q. You did not know his name to be Tiffen, did you - A. No; I never heard his name before; I was in the dark, I could see him plainly by the light of the window, I knew him by sight. The moment he came from the shop window by the door, he either said George or Thomas, I believe, I cannot say which. The prisoner Bolton, I believe, did not hear him; he passed the door a few yards, he returned again; when he came by the door, he said d - n you George or Thomas, or whatever name it was - you are done.
Q. At the time he said that, where was the other person that you had seen - A. About two yards in the shop, going forward in the shop upon his hands and knees; I believe Bolton then heard him speak, and then Bolton was withdrawing out of the shop; I stepped into the shop, and caught hold of him by the back part of his coat; I asked him if he was going to rob the man’s shop - he said no.
Q. Did you see any one else in the shop - A. No. I asked him what business he had there; in the mean time Mr. Salmon came out.
Q. Did you call him out - A. No further than my speaking loud; Mr. Salmon came out of the parlour, at least the back room; I then delivered him into Mr. Salmon’s care; he was then off his hands and knees; when Mr. Salmon came to me, and I delivered him up to Mr. Salmon, I said to Mr. Salmon take him into custody, there is another concerned in it, I shall see him in a minute; in the mean time there came round ten or fifteen people. I turned round and saw Tiffen, I said you are the rascal that was concerned with him.
Q. Are you sure that the man you saw in the crowd was the same man that you had seen outside of the window, and who had spoke to him - A. I was sure he was the same person. As soon as I told him he was the rascal that was concerned with him he drawed himself in an attitude to strike me; I had a stick in my hand, and a bundle under my other arm; I struck him across the arm.
Q. You say he did make a blow at you - A. Yes; with his fist; he then attempted the second time to strike me; I struck him with my stick; he would have struck me if he could, but he could not get at me; he ran across the street directly, I pursued him across the street; I struck him once or twice going across; he ran down Sutton street, just at the corner of Sutton street I struck him across the shoulder, he reeled and fell down. One of the watchmen came up to me and was going to collar me; I said go and take hold of the thief; then he was taken hold of by the watchman in my presence; the first watchman that came up could not hold him; the second watchman came up; he stripped himself out of his coat and he did make an attempt to run, after he was stripped out of his coat; he was stopped by a third watchman. I left him in the care of the watchmen; I never saw him any more till I saw him at Worship street. I went home after that.
Q. Are you sure that Tiffen was the man that you have been speaking about - A. I am sure that Tiffen is the man that spoke to him, and the man that was at the window; he went as far as Gee street after he spoke to him, and there he stopped by the post; I saw Bolton go into the shop; I took him in the shop.
WILLIAM SPICER. I am an officer of the parish. I was sent for; I found both the prisoners in the watchhouse; I took them to prison.
Bolton’s Defence. I was going to Mr. Wood’s in Aldersgate street with some work for my father; my shoe came untied coming home, I put my foot upon the step to tie my shoe; the witness said here is a thief in the shop; I had no occasion for stealing of any thing. I declare to Almighty God I know nothing of the young man.
Tiffen’s Defence. I was walking on the other side of Goswell street; I was very much in liquor; I saw a mob on the other side of the way, consequently I pushed myself into the mob; this gentleman was accusing one and another; he said, you were with him; I argued with him on the subject; he drew a large stick and hit me on the arm; I ran away and he pursued me and struck me. I never had any discourse with the other young man before this transaction.
BOLTON, GUILTY - DEATH , aged 21.
TIFFEN, GUILTY - DEATH, aged 24.
First Middlesex jury, before Mr. justice Le Blanc.

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ANDREW TIFFEN, Miscellaneous > returning from transportation, 2nd December 1812.
6. ANDREW TIFFEN was indicted, for that he, at the delivery of the King’s gaol of Newgate, holden for the county of Middlesex, on Wednesday the 4th of April, in the 49th year of His Majesty’s reign, was, in due form of law, tried and convicted, for that he, on the 4th of March, the dwelling-house of William Salmon did break and enter, with intent the goods therein being, feloniously to steal and carry away, and was ordered and adjudged by the court to be hanged by the neck until he was dead, and that he received his Majesty’s pardon on condition of being transported for life; and that he afterwards, on the 22d of October , feloniously was at large within this kingdom of Great Britain before the expiration of the term of his natural life .
DANIEL BISHOP. I am an officer of Worship-street office.
Q. Do you know the prisoner - A. I do. I produce the copy of the record of the conviction of the prisoner from Mr. Shelton’s office. I saw Mr. Shelton sign it.
(Read.)
EDWARD VINGE. I believe you are one of the turnkeys of Newgate - A. I am.
Q. Do you know the prisoner - A. Perfectly well.
Q. Was he in your custody in the year 1809 - A. He was there under sentence of death.
Q. I believe he was respited upon condition of being transported - A. He was.
Q. Were you in court at the time he was tried - I was not. I remember his being sent up for trial, and his being returned, having received sentence ofdeath, and I searched him when he was taken out of prison to be taken to the hulks.
RICHARD SMITH . I am chief mate of the Ceylon hulk, at Sheerness.
Q. Do you know the prisoner - A. Perfectly well. He was received on boards the hulks, at Woolwich, in June, 1809. I received him at Woolwich, from which he was removed to Sheerness. I saw him on board the hulk at Sheerness, after being removed from Woolwich. I remember his being delivered from the hulk at Sheerness, to go abroad. He was shipped off our vessel on board a ship, to go to New South Wales. He was sent by the name of Andrew Tiffen . I have not the least doubt of his being the person. He was with me about a twelvemonth and a day, from the time that we received until we shipped him off. He behaved well as a man and a prisoner.
Prisoner. Did you deliver me yourself - A. No, I did not. He was delivered by the second officer. I am the chief officer. I saw him go into the boat to go into the ship. I did not go with him.
JOHN ARMSTRONG . I am an officer. I, in company with Bishop, Joshua Armstrong , and William Armstrong , on the 22d of October last, apprehended the prisoner at a house in Checquer-alley, St. Luke’s, Middlesex. I had seen him. We told him our charge. He behaved very well. We took him in custody.
Prisoner’s Defence. I am not able to express myself properly. I hope you will read this appeal. This paper will shew that it was unavoidable, my coming back to this country.
COURT. To his Majesty, hereafter, this may be of service to you; it cannot be here.
GUILTY - DEATH , aged 34.
[ The prisoner was recommended to mercy by the Jury, on account of Mr. Smith’s recommendation .]
Second Middlesex jury, before Mr. Baron Graham.
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Absconded prisoners.
Andrew Tiffin, alias Greenlow, Labourer, per General Hewitt, tried at the Old Bailey, Dec. 1812, life, 29 years of age, dark complexion, dark brown hair, hazle eyes, and little pock-marked ; 3d conviction and transportation.
Sydney Gazette, 6 July 1816.

Convict Changes History

Beth Kebblewhite on 9th June, 2013 made the following changes:

alias1, alias2, date of birth 1788, crime

hamish on 13th June, 2013 made the following changes:

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