John Bays

Summary

Born
Jan 1811
Conviction
Unknown
Departure
Jul 1828
Arrival
Nov 1828
Death
Jan 1833
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Personal Information

Name: John Bays
Gender: Male
Born: 1st Jan 1811
Death: 10th Jan 1833
Age at death: 22
Occupation: Boatman/waterman

Crime

Crime: Unknown
Convicted at: Middlesex Gaol Delivery
Sentence term: 14 years

Voyage

Departed: 16th Jul 1828
Ship: Manlius
Arrival: 9th Nov 1828
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land

Transportation

John Bays was transported on the Manlius, departing 16th Jul 1828 and arriving 9th Nov 1828 with 176 passengers.

ManliusManlius (generic)

References

Primary SourceAustralian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 89, Class and Piece Number HO11/6, Page Number 449 (226)
Source DescriptionThis record is one of the entries in the British convict transportation registers 1787-1867 database compiled by State Library of Queensland from British Home Office (HO) records which are available on microfilm as part of the Australian Joint Copying Pro
Original SourceGreat Britain. Home Office
Compiled ByState Library of Queensland
Database SourceBritish convict transportation registers 1787-1867 database

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Convict Notes

Dianne Jones avatar
Level 218
on 23rd April 2021

1828: On arrival in VDL, he was listed as a boatman, single and aged 20 from Wisbech, Cambridgeshire. He said his father Thomas Bays was a baker from Curtain Road, Shoreditch. 1833, 10 January: John BAYS drowned at Launceston (see https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON31-1-1$init=CON31-1-1p383). 1833, 29 January: John BAYS, a convict and boatman aged 26, was buried at St John’s, Launceston (see https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD34-1-1p140j2k).

Dianne Jones avatar
Level 218
on 23rd April 2021

On 23 March, 1827, John BAYS was sent to the Retribution hulk. In December of that year he petitioned for his release (see above). 1828, 28 June: Following his conviction at the Old Bailey on 29 May 1828, John BAYS, listed as 17 years old, was received aboard the Ganymede hulk at Chatham. He was sent from there for transportation on 11 July 1828 (see UK, Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books, 1802-1849).

Dianne Jones avatar
Level 218
on 23rd April 2021

Note: John BAYS, as stated in the above trial, was previously tried on 14 February 1821 at the Old Bailey. He was 11 years old and accused of grand larceny (stealing, on 24 January 1821, two mahogany frames, value 5s.). He was found guilty and sentenced to transportation. However, he appears not to have been transported, according to a petition submitted on his behalf in 1827. It reads: “HO 17/98/4 … Prisoner name: John Bays. Court and date of trial: Old Bailey Sessions, February 1821. Crime: [Not stated]. Initial sentence: Seven years [transportation]. Petitioner(s): John Bays, the prisoner. Grounds for clemency: Has served six years and ten months of sentence, of which eight months on Retribution hulk; good conduct. Additional Information: Prisoner held on Retribution hulk. Date: 1827 Dec 9.” (see https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C13500110) PRISON HULKS: On 16 March 1821, John BAYS aged 11 was sent from Newgate Jail and received aboard the prison hulk York, at Portsmouth. He was sent from there on 20 May to an unspecified location (see UK, Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books, 1802-1849). On 23 May, 1823, John BAYS, still listed as 11 years old, having been convicted at Middlesex on 14 February 1821 and sentenced to 7 years, was received aboard the Euraylus hulk at Chatham.

Dianne Jones avatar
Level 218
on 23rd April 2021

1828, 29 May: John BAYS, born 1810, was tried at the Old Bailey. The transcript of his trial follows: “1166. JOHN BAYS was indicted for stealing, on the 22d of April, 6 lbs. weight of beef, value 4s., the goods of Thomas Lee; and that he, at the delivery of the King's Gaol of Newgate, holden for the County of Middlesex, on Wednesday, the 14th of February, in the 2d year of the present King, was convicted of felony. THOMAS THOMPSON. I am an officer. On the 22d of April I was on duty near the Bluecoat Boy public-house, at ten o'clock at night: I saw the prisoner going along very fast in the road, with something under his arm; I went and stopped him, and found he had a bit of beef, which he said the turnpike man gave him; I said I did not believe it- he said, "Well, I will tell you the truth; a boy was carrying it in a tray along the lower road, and I snatched it and ran away." ROBERT WILLIAMS. I am servant to Thomas Lee, a butcher , of Islington. The officer brought this beef to our shop the next morning - there were 6 lbs. of it, and I knew it to be my master's; I had seen it safe about half past eight o'clock in the evening - I know nothing of the prisoner. WILLIAM MERRY. I am a Bow-street patrol. I was on duty with Thompson, and saw what he has stated; I found the owner of the beef next morning. Prisoner: I picked up the beef, wrapped up in some white paper. WILLIAM HALL. I am a conductor of the Bow-street patrol. I have a certificate of the prisoner's former conviction, which I got from the office; it is signed Thomas Shelton. The certificate of the prisoner's conviction of stealing two mahogany frames of William Shelton Ritchie, and his being sentenced to be transported for seven years, was here read. WILLIAM SHELTON RITCHIE. I am a plumber, and live at No. 7, Silver-street; I did live in Tabernacle-walk. I prosecuted the prisoner seven years ago; he was tried here and convicted, and ordered to be transported for seven years; I am certain he is the man; it was in the 2d year of the reign of his present Majesty. Prisoner. The constable went and brought that man up at Hatton-garden; I have got my bread by honest industry, standing with goods in the street. I was coming home, and found the beef. GUILTY. Aged 17. Transported for Fourteen Years” (see https://www.oldbaileyonline.org).