Robert Jones

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iain Frazier on 25th April 2024

Family connections for Robert (Jones) are: JONES Robert (Jones) was born in 1762 & became a labourer. He was tried for shoplifting silk stockings, on 5 1 1792, of Richard (March) at Old Bailey on 15 2 1792, sentenced to 7years/Life, held at Middlesex Gaol Delivery & arrived in NSW as a convict on 30 5 1792 after a voyage of 4+months on Fleet ship ROYAL ADMIRAL also. He married as emancipist Sarah (Thomas) on 2 6 1811 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. [Some details taken from this Website; where there appears to be 2entries for this person] Details of Sarah (Thomas)s family may be given in entry for Thomas (Eddington ALEXANDER 1788) on this Website. Sarah (Thomas) & Robert (Jones) produced 1child: 1.Julius Paul (Jones) was born on 13 8 1819 & baptised on 22 8 1824 age5+ at St Matthews CofE Windsor. .. [Noted a Robert (Jones) is recorded as marrying Catherine (Simms) on 28 8 1797 at St Johns CofE Parramatta.] [ & a Robert (Jones) is recorded as marrying Elizabeth (Pickering) on 11 3 1799 at St Johns CofE Parramatta.] Reference: Craig James Smee 'Births and Baptisms Marriages and Defacto Relationships Deaths and Burials New South Wales 1788-1830' ..a complete listing from church & other records in the early colony.

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C H on 18th February 2024

Old Bailey Online ROBERT JONES. Theft; shoplifting. 15th February 1792. Text type Trial account Defendants ROBERT JONES Offences Theft > Shoplifting Session Date 15th February 1792 Reference Number t17920215-42 Verdicts Guilty > Lesser offence Punishments Transportation 148. ROBERT JONES was indicted for feloniously stealing, on the 5th of January , one pair of silk stockings, value 12 s. the goods of Richard March , privily in his shop . FRANCIS UPCOTT sworn. I am in the service of Richard March , hosier , in the Strand : on Wednesday, the 25th of January, between the hours of seven and eight in the evening, the prisoner at the bar came in, and asked to see some white silk stockings: after shewing him a great variety, he made choice of one pair, which I put by on the counter; he then said he wanted a pair of coloured, and a pair of black likewise: I shewed him the coloured silk stockings; he objected to the price being too high; I told him I would shew him some of a lower price, and turned my back: while I was turning round, I heard the pareels on the counter to stir, by a rustling noise, as if a pair had been taken out; I shewed him the second parcel; he objected to them likewise, as being too dear; he then took up his gloves, and was going towards the door; there is a leaf which lifts up of the counter, just by the door; I lifted up the leaf, went out, took the prisoner by the collar, and accused him of the theft; and at the same time placed him on the opposite side of the shop, against a counter, where no stockings had been opened; he put his left-hand into his left-hand pocket, and drew a pair of silk stockings out, and threw them behind him; and they fell by his right foot, on the floor: he then solicited me very much to let him go; that he was a tradesman: I told him, as it was my duty to protect my master's property, a proper person must go with him: I sent to call for a workman up stairs; I was the only person in the shop at the time the stockings were taken; the workman came down, and I requested him to call a constable; and I kept the man till he came, and gave him and the stockings to the constable; the stockings were the property of Richard March ; he has had them ever since; they were marked with my mark before; they might have been marked two or three days, or two or three weeks; I am sure they were the property of Mr. Richard March : these were not the stockings I put by; they were from another parcel; I am certain they were taken out of the parcel on the counter; I remembered seeing this pair on the counter, when I shewed the stockings to him; I knew them by the mark; I am sure they were in the parcel when he came into the shop; there were more pairs than one in the parcel with my mark, but I know this by the pattern; they were coloured silk without clocks; I have sold some in the shop of the same pattern, but not to the prisoner. Court. Did you know the number that was in the parcel? - No. Till he dropped the stockings, was you aware that he had any? - From what he had done, and I saw him in the motion of putting them in his pocket; I believe there was but one pair of that pattern in the parcel. Suppose you had not suspected any thing, should you have missed these stockings from the parcel? - I don't suppose I should. Court. Mr. Upcott, I observe these stockings are a very common pattern? - They are a very particular pattern, it has not been made above six weeks. You said you were sure this pair was there when the prisoner came in; can you venture to swear that these stockings were in the parcel? - I am as positive of it, that those stockings were in the parcel, as that I am in this place now; I knew them by the particular pattern of the stockings, and I swear more positively from hearing the noise of the parcel; I don't swear positively, by the pattern of the stockings, that they were in the parcel, but also by hearing a rustling on the counter. Upon your suspicions of this man, you went round to a leaf of the counter; and by your own account you carried him to the other side of your shop; what is the width? - About four feet. Now these stockings were found on the floor? - As close to the opposite counter as possible. How long might any stockings have been open on that counter? - Three or four hours, but not silk; we never have silk on that side. Can you venture to swear that there had been no silk opened on that side? - It is merely accidental if any are opened on that side; there was not a single pair opened on that counter at that time. I would just wish to know, so as to see, with all your accuracy, how he took them out? - I took them up at his feet. I want to know how you could see so much as this? - There were four candles in the shop. Will you venture to swear that you saw so accurately? - I have sworn it, and I will abide by the whole course of my evidence. JAMES TALBOYS sworn. I produce some stockings given to me by Mr. Upcott, and I have had them in my possession ever since; I received them from Mr. Upcott in the presence of the prisoner Mr. Upcott said that he suspected the prisoner because he heard a rustling on the counter. (Deposed to.) Mr. Schoen to Mr. Upcott. Did you examine the number of the parcel? - I did not; I only know they were lost, by my suspicions, and what I saw. Prisoner. I leave it to my counsel. A WITNESS examined. What will become of you, if you swear that which is false? - I shall go to the devil. How old are you? - I am turned of 15. (Sworn.) On the 25th of January last, the prisoner came in about some silk stockings, and Mr. Upcott and he could not agree about the price; and he was going out, and Mr. Upcott took hold of him; I told him he had a pair in his pocket, and he put his hand into his pocket, and took a pair out, and throwed them down by his right foot; Mr. Upcott told me to call a man down stairs; the man came down, and went out for a constable. Mr. Schoen. Who taught you all this? - I only speak what I saw. Not the young man that was up last? - No, he did not. Upcott. I thank you for the compliment. GUILTY of stealing, but not privately . (Aged 30.) Tried by the first Middlesex Jury before Mr. RECORDER.