Thomas Kidner

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iain Frazier on 13th May 2026

Family connections for Thomas (Kidner) are: KIDNER/Y Thomas (Kidner/y) became a stone cutter. He was tried for stealing linen at Bristol Gloucesteshire on 30 10 1783, sentenced to 7years, kept in gaols & hulks & arrived in NSW as a convict on 22 1 1788 after a journey of 12months on First Fleet ship ALEXANDER. He was taken to Norfolk Island on 2 3 1789 on SUPPLY. On 20 7 1789 he was charged for buying necessaries from a marine private-received 150lashes; at Port Jackson, possibly returned there for the trial. He is also said to have been transported to Norfolk Island on 11 11 1789 on SUPPLY. He, as Thomas (Kidney), married firstly Jane (Whiting/Willing age15 her first relationship) in November 1791 in group ceremony on Norfolk Island. In 1792 he had 15acres & was working as a stone cutter & was recorded as being a stone cutter before 1794 (prior to arriving on NI). He was Free by Servitude by 1795.>>> Thomas (Kidner/y) does not have an entry on this Website as yet-added by me. Jane (Whiting) was born about 1776 & became a sweep. She was tried w/1other at age about13 of robbing Mary (Phillips age8) of her clothes at Old Bailey on 14 11 1789, sentenced to death reprieved to Life (or 7years?), held at Middlesex Gaol Delivery & Newgate Gaol & arrived in NSW as a convict on 3 6 1790 after a voyage of 6months on Fleet ship LADY JULIANA-a ship with 228females who easily entertained the whole crew & also sailors at Teneriffe stopover. She was sent to Norfolk Island on 1/7 8 1790 on SURPRISE. She had a second relationship with Alexander (Dollis his first relationship) & produced 4children. She was Free by Servitude by 1805 & was recorded as convict on stores on Norfolk Island in February 1805. [She is recorded as leaving Norfolk Island with her family to Port Jackson in October 1805 on HMS BUFFALO & to Van Diemens Land after 1807. She is also recorded as leaving Norfolk Island with her children on 26 11 1808 (no ship recorded at this time) to Tasmania.] She was issued her Absolute Pardon on 9 6 1810. She was listed as living at Prospect (suburb south of Launceston?) & approved to recieve grant of land. She apparantly purchased 12.5 perches in Collins St Hobart on 1 6 1817; half of which she transferred to her son. She is recorded as a woman on stores at Hobart Town on 2 10 1818. She became housekeeper for George (Clerk) who gifted her 13 Collins St Hobart for her services. She died on 14 9 1826 age50 mother of 6children & was buried at St Davids CofE Hobart on 14 9 1826 as a poor woman. [Some details taken from this Website] .. Thomas (Kidner) & Jane (Whiting) produced 2children: 1.Thomas (Kidner) was born on 30 5 1795 on Norfolk Island. He was recorded as a child off stores on Norfolk Island in February 1805. He left Norfolk Island to Derwent River Van Diemans Land (Tasmania) as part of the first evacuation with his father on 9 11 1807 on HMS LADY NELSON, arriving on 18/29 11 1807. In 1817 he was given 6.25perches in Collins St Hobart by his mother. It may be he who departed on whaling vessel SPRING in 1817 & JUPITER in 1818. He married Elizabeth (Burkett) on 7 1 1822 in Tasmania. It also may be he, or his father, in 1822 who was tried for throwing stones at Thomas (Florence), at Kangaroo Point, at Hobart Magistrates Bench, fined & given 25lashes. He was possibly granted 60acres at Sussex (Rokeby) in 1823. In 1824 he obtained a ferry licence for operation between Bluff Point & Pittwater. He died on 26/9 5 1883 age88-. ..Elizabeth (Burki/ett) was born perhaps in 1800. She was tried at Nottingham Town Quarter Sessions on 14 1 1819, sentenced to 7years & arrived in Van Diemans Land (Tasmania) as a convict on 30 9 1820 after a voyage of 4.5months on MORLEY (although this Website has the ship travelling to NSW). A Certificate (of Freedom?) no.1831/90 was issued for her on 14 3 1831. She died on 2 11 1861 age perhaps61. ..[Some details taken from this Website] ..Thomas (Kidner) & Elizabeth (Burkett) produced 7children: ..1.-7.??? (Kidner) .. 2.Ann (Kidner) was born on 14 10 1798 (maybe on Norfolk Island) & baptised on 18 10 1798 at St Johns CofE Parramatta (or maybe recorded there). She was recorded as child off Stores on Norfolk Island in February 1805. She was taken to Derwent Tasmania as part of the first evacuation by her father on 5 11 1807 on HMS LADY NELSON, arriving on 18/29 11 1807. [She is separately recorded as leaving Norfolk Island with her parents to Port Jackson in October 1805 on HMS BUFFALO; & to Van Diemens Land in 1807]. She married at age14 Richard (Larson/Larsom/Larsome) on 24 2 1812 at St Davids CofE Hobart & produced 8children. She died on 18 1 1854 age57 & was buried at St Matthews Rokeby.] ..Richard (Brooks) was born on 25 4 1791 on Norfolk Island. He was later to be known as Richard (Larson/Larsom/Larsome) as well as (Brooks/Lavender). He left Norfolk Island, as (Larson), & arrived at Clarence Plains Tasmania about 1810. He was a constable in 1817. it may be he who is recorded as Richard (Larson/m) with 2children off stores in Hobart Town on 2 10 1818. He was granted 40acres. He died on 15 7 1849 age57 & was buried at St Matthews Rokeby.] ..Details of Richard (Brooks/Larson)s family are given in entry for James (Morrisby SCARBOROUGH 1788) on this Website. .. >>>Thomas (Kidner) married secondly ??? (???) on Norfolk Island. He was recorded as Free by Servitude settler/landowner on Norfolk Island in February 1805. [He is separately recorded as leaving Norfolk Island with his family to Port Jackson in October 1805 on HMS BUFFALO & to Derwent River Van Diemens Land as part of the first evacuation with his son on 9 11 1807 on HMS LADY NELSON, arriving on 29 11 1807] He owned 15acres when he went to Derwent Tasmania as part of the first evacuation with his daughter & new spouse? (for which volunteers apparantly had been called with appropriate compensation offerred & for which he may have tried to decline as some successful farmers were asked to stay) on 5/9 11 1807 on HMS LADY NELSON, arriving on 18/29 11 1807; he lived in Sandy Bay from 1810, when he was sent to Sydney as a witness in a trial. He was granted 30acres land at Queens Borough/Sandy Bay in 1813 & another 60acres at Sussex (Rokeby) in 1823 (maybe actually to his son). It also may be he, or his son, in 1822 who was tried for throwing stones at Thomas (Florence), at Kangaroo Point, at Hobart Magistrates Bench, fined & given 25lashes. He may have died in or left VDL. He produced 9known children in his lifetime. ??? (???) arrived on (or left) Norfolk Island on 9 11 1807. References: Craig James Smee 'Births and Baptisms Marriages and Defacto Relationships Deaths and Burials New South Wales 1788-1830' ..a complete listing from church & other records in the early colony. Irene Schaffer & Thelma McKay 'Exiled Three Times Over! Profiles of Norfolk Islanders Exiled in Van Diemens Land 1807-1813' James Hugh Donohoe 'Norfolk Island 1788-1813-The People and Their Families' Reg Wright 'Forgotten Generation of Norfolk Island & Van Diemens Land'