John Kinsey

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iain Frazier on 22nd March 2024

Family connections for John (Kinsey) are: Some amendments added Aug 2025. KINSEY ??? (Kinsey) produced perhaps 2children: 1.James (Kinsey) was born about 1777 & became a labourer. He was tried w/3others including his brother John for demanding arms, on 21 11 1806, of Robert (Armstrong) of Oghill at Sligo Ireland in Decenber 1806, sentenced to 7years, variously named (Kinsey/Kinzy) & arrived in NSW as a convict with his brother on 27 7 1807 after a voyage of 7months on DUKE OF PORTLAND; he was Catholic; he used the name (McKenzie) in NSW. He was issued his Certificate of Freedom no.5/1292 on 3 1 1814; he was 5'6" clear ruddy complexion black hair black eyes. On 30 6 1814 while he was at Caddie he was granted land. In November 1820 he was subjected to a burglary at his house at Windsr, as was his brother. In November 1820 he was subjected to a burglary & violence. He is recorded in 1828 Free by Servitude as farme at Caddi Pitt Town. In 1839 he was owner of 50acres at Catti/ai Creek. [Some details taken from this Website] .. 2.John (Kinsey) was born about 1783 & became a shoe maker. He was tried w/3others including his brother James for demanding arms, on 21 11 1806, of Robert (Armstrong) of Oghill at Sligo Ireland in Decenber 1806, sentenced to 7years, variously named (Kinsey/Kinzy) & arrived in NSW as a convict with his brother on 27 7 1807 after a voyage of 7months on DUKE OF PORTLAND; he used the name (McKenzie) in NSW. He was issued his Certificate of Freedom no.6/1293 on 3 1 1814; he was 5'6" dark pockmarked complexion dark brown hair hazel eyes. On 30 6 1814 while he was at Pitt Town he was granted land. He married firstly Mary (Hobbs/Robs) on 8 10 1814 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. On 16 11 1816 he was at Hawkesbury. In November 1820 he was subjected to a burglary at his house at Windsor, as was his brother. In 1839 he was owner of 50acres at Catti/ai Creek. He died in 1865 age about82 father of perhaps 8known children. [Some details taken from this Website] ..Mary (Hobbs/Robs) was born on 17 12 1797 & baptised on 7 8 1798 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She is recorded in 1814 off stores with her parents. She died on 16 5 1857 age59. ..Details of Mary (Hobbs)s family are given in entry for Robert (Hobbs ACTIVE 1791) on this Website. ..John (McKenzie/McKinsey) & Mary (Hobbs/Robs) produced at least 7children: mostly boys ..1.John (McKenzie) was born in 1815. ..2.William (McKenzie/McKinsey) was born in 1817 at Caddie Creek & baptised on 6 11 1820 age about3 w/Andrew at St Marys RC Sydney. He died on 19 6 1865 age about47. ..3.Andrew (McKenzie/McKinsey) was born in 1820 at Caddie Creek & baptised on 6 11 1820 w/William at St Marys RC Sydney. He died on 2 8 1876 age about56. ..4.Mary Ann (McKenzie) was born in 1823 at Windsor & baptised, as (McKinsey, on 28 8 1823 at St Marys RC Sydney. ..5.Elizabeth Bridget (McKenzie) was born on 13 11 1825 at Pitt Town & baptised on 28 10 1826 at St Marys RC Sydney. She died on 26 4 1840 age14. ..6.James (McKenzie) was born on 3 5 1828 at Pitt Town & baptised on 31 10 1828 at St Marys RC Sydney. He died on 22 12 1861 age33. ..7.Joseph (McKenzie) was born on 3 11 1829 in Sydney & baptised on 9 2 1830 at St Marys RC Sydney. He died on 28 12 1920 age91. .. >>>John (McKenzie) may have had a second relationship with Ellen (Connor). He may have produced 8known children in his lifetime.] ..Ellen (Connor) was a convict. ..Ellen (Connor) cannot be identified on this Website; however CCONVICTdone A.an Ellen (Connor) was born about 1802 & became occupied in country work. She was tried for stealing a watch probably at Old Bailey, sentenced to Life, held at Middlesex Gaol Delivery & arrived in NSW as a convict 29 6 1830 after a voyage of 4.5months on ROSLYN CASTLE on 29 6 1830-if hers, the child Mry (McKenzie) would have been conceived in England. It may be she who was recorded in 1830 at Parramatta Factory. She died on 1 6 1836 age about33. [Some details taken from this Website] CCONVICTdone B.Ellen (Connors/Connor/O'Connor) was born about 1798, perhaps in Limerick Ireland & became a house servant. She had a relationship & produced a child. She was tried w/1other for stealing a watch etc of Michael (Noonan) at Cork Ireland in 1825, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 17 5 1826 after a voyage of 4months on LADY ROWENA; she was Catholic. It may be she who was recorded in 1830 at Parramatta Factory. 1.??? (???/Connors/Connor/O'Connor) was born in Ireland & may have accompanied her mother to NSW, arriving on 17 5 1826 after a voyage of 4months on LADY ROWENA. [Some details taken from this Website] .. ..John (McKenzie) & an Ellen (Connor) maybe produced 1child: ..1.Mary (McKenzie) is recorded as born on 18 9 1830 at Parramatta Factory & baptised on 30 9 1830 at St Marys RC Sydney. Reference: Craig James Smee 'Births and Baptisms Marriages and Defacto Relationships Deaths and Burials New South Wales 1788-1830' ..a complete listing from church & other records in the early colony.

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Maureen Withey on 25th February 2021

John Kinsey used the name John McKenzie in NSW. --------------------------------------------------- Colonial Secretary Index. MCKENZIE, John. 1814 Jun 30 - Of Pitt Town. Brother of James McKenzie. On list of persons to receive grants of land in 1814 (Fiche 3266; 9/2652 p.19) 1820 Nov 22-Dec 14 - Of district of Windsor. Michael Smith convicted by Court of Criminal Jurisdiction of stealing from McKenzie's house (Reel 6023; X820 p.27) --------------------------------------------------- MCKENZIE, John. Per "Duke of Portland"; of Hawkesbury. 1816 Nov 16 - On list of persons who came as convicts and who claimed they were free at the last General Muster, without supporting documentation (Reel 6038; SZ759 p.284) -------------------------------------------------- His brother James: MCKENZIE, James. Of Caddi. 1814 Jun 30 - Brother of John McKenzie. On list of persons to receive grants of land in 1814 (Fiche 3266; 9/2652 p.19) 1822 Apr 29-May 9 - Thomas Roach and others convicted by Court of Criminal Jurisdiction of breaking & entering house of McKenzie (Reel 6023; X820 p.49) 1822 May - Burglary and violence committed against (Reel 6054; 4/1758 pp.89-92b, 162-162a) 1822 May 2 - Referred to in letter re robbery of at Caddie (Reel 6017; 4/5783 pp.74-75) 1822 May 6 - Re conviction of his assailants (Reel 6054; 4/1758 pp.162-162a) -------------------------------------------------- GOVERNMENT PUBLIC NOTICE. Secretary's Office, Sydney, 16th November, 1816. WHEREAS, during the late General Muster of the Inhabitants of this Colony, several Persons who had originally come into it as Convicts reported themselves at the said Muster as free, either by Servitude or by Pardon, or as being allowed to employ themselves for their own Benefit by the special Permission of His EXCELLENCY the GOVERNOR; and whereas several of the Persons who thus reported themselves did not produce any Certificate, Free Pardon, Emancipation, or Ticket of Leave, without which the Truth of their said Statements could not be satisfactorily ascertained; and there being much Reason to believe that Imposition is frequently practised in this Respect, the Names of those Persons who at the late Muster did not produce any Certificate, Free Pardon, Emancipation, or Ticket of Leave, but who represented themselves absolutely free, or conditionally so, by Virtue of one or other of the above named Documents, is now published, in Order that each of these Persons may be apprised that unless he or she do, in, the Course of Six Months from the present Day, obtain at the Secretary's Office, either a certified Copy of such Certificate, Free Pardon, Emancipation, or Ticket of Leave, as they represented themselves to have been once possessed of in the Event of his or her having actually lost the Original, they will be considered as Impostors, and immediately recalled to Government Work as Convicts still under the Sentence of the Law. No. Name. Ship came in. Residence. Occupation. 36. John McKenzie, D. of Portl., Hawksb. Sydney Gazette, 16 Nov 1816.

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Maureen Withey on 11th February 2021

HO-9-8-3 page 16/51. Hulk records at Portsmouth show that on 15 Jan 1807, 11 convicts arrived from Dublin, whose names are given, but with no further information. The same day these 11 men were embarked on board the Duke of Wellington. “Received eleven from Dublin 15 Jan 1807. Bartholomew Biglane Archibald Biglane Jas Kinsey John Kinsey Patrick Hart Patrick Harrydon Patrick Flynn Michael Grant Wm Cortellon Connell All Sent on board the Duke of Portland, 15 Jan 1807.”

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Maureen Withey on 9th February 2021

Patrick Hart, Bartholomew Bighlane, Archibold Biglane, James Kinzy, and John Kinzy, were indicted, for that they on the 21st of November, 1806, at Oghill, in the county of Sligo, did feloniously in a forcible manner, demand fire arms from Robert Armstrong, with intent feloniously to rob him thereof, against peace and statute. The prisoners were all convicted and sentenced to be transported for seven years. Cobbett's Complete Collection of State Trials and Proceedings

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Penny-Lyn Beale on 2nd December 2020

New South Wales Certificate of Freedom. [NRS 12208] Register of Certificate of Freedoms No; 6/1293 Name; John Kinsey When and where tried; Sligo - Dec 1806 Sentence; 7 years Ship and arrival year; Duke of Portland - 1807 When time expired. Dec 1813 Date of Certificate; 3 Jan 1814 Description and Remarks; Native County; Sligo Trade; Shoemaker Age; 30 years [1783] Height; 5 ft 6 in Complexion; Dark Hair; Dark Brown Eyes; Hazel Additional Remarks; Pock marked