Mary Manderville

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E Bowler on 25th August 2025

Mary Manderville married Boaz Venner at St John's Parramatta on 8 January 1792 but her surname was recorded as Mandull. An image of the original entry is available on Ancestry (New South Wales, Australia, St. John's Parramatta, Marriages, 1790-1966). Ann Venner's baptism in 1793 was also at St John's Parramatta and is available from sources with microfilm of early baptisms, marriages, and burials (such as your local genealogical society - eg SAG in Sydney or main state public libraries such as the National Library in Canberra & probably the State Library in Sydney. The reference for Ann Venner's baptism from the NSW BDM index is 263/1793 V1793263 1A

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iain Frazier on 23rd May 2024

Family connections for Mary (Manderville) are: MANDERVILLE Mary (Mande/rville/Manduel) was born about 1756/66. She was tried at Dublin or Kilkenny Ireland, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 26 9 1791 after a voyage of 5months on QUEEN. She married firstly Boze/Boaz (Veneer/Verner) on 8 1 1792 at St Johns CofE Parramatta & produced 1child.>>> [Some details taken from this Website] Boze (Venner) was born about 1760 & became a calico printer. He was convicted of burglary, on 11 12 1785, of David (Wonham) at Maidstone Kent Assizes in March 1787. He was also tried w/1other for stealing calico, on 1 6 1786, of John (Ashby) & John (Philpot) at Maidstone Kent General Sessions on 30 8 1786, sentenced to death reprieved to 14years at Old Bailey & arrived in NSW as a convict on 26 6 1790 after a voyage of 6months on Fleet ship NEPTUNE; a voyage noted for extreme brutality of prisoners with a high death rate. [Some details taken from this Website] .. >>>Mary (Mande/rville/Manduel) had a second relationship with Joseph (Butler her first relationship) from about 1793. She died on 1 9 1795/6 age29 (39 acoording to Smees records) mother of 1child in a fire that destroyed her house, after a quarrel with Mary (Pawson) & was buried at St Johns CofE Parramatta. Joseph (Butler) was born about 1767. He was tried for highway robbery of Edward (Poulton age13), on 22 2 1786, & stealing linen handkerchief etc of Martha (Robinson) at Old Bailey in February 1786, sentenced to 7years, held at Middlesex Gaol Delivery & arrived in NSW as a convict on 26 6 1790 afer a voyage of 6months on Fleet ship NEPTUNE; a voyage noted for extreme brutality of prisoners with a high death rate. He sold his property after the deaath of his wife in 1795 & moved away from Parramatta. He was Free by Servitude by 1802 & had a second relationship with Mary (Holland her second (2of3) relationship) whom he later married - in 1826. He was recorded in 1814 as off stores with 2children. He married Mary (Holland) in May 1828 (not shown in Smees records). He died on 25 1 1836 age69 father of 3children. [Some details taken from this Website] Reference: Craig James Smee 'Births and Baptisms Marriages and Defacto Relationships Deaths and Burials New South Wales 1788-1830' ..a complete listing from church & other records in the early colony.

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Denis Pember on 27th March 2016

Flynn, Michael; the Second Fleet, Britain's Grim Convict Armada of 1790. Page 185.... "On a grant adjoining that of Butler's lived William Pawson and his wife Mary (nèe Smith). On 9th July 1795 Mary manderville and Mary Pawson quarrelled furiously over a pair of chains Pawson had lent Butler. That night, the Butler house was destroyed by fire; the couple also lost 350 bushells of corn in the blaze. Mary Pawson was charged with strating the fire but was aquitted at the Sydney Court of Criminal Jurisdiction on 20 July 1795. In court, she admitted that the quarrel had involved much abuse on both sides. She added after Manderville had left 'clapping her hands, You Bloody, Bloody Whore, before this day month I will give you a warm arse.' Whether this was said as a scream of abuse, or in a threatening tone in not clear. However, Mary Mandervilles burial was registered at St Johns Parramatta on September 2 1795 less than 7 weeks after the aforesaid trial." Discouraged by the loss of his de-facto nwife and undoubtedly suffering some financial loss, Joseph Butler sold his farm and moved away.

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Denis Pember on 27th March 2016

There does appear to be some confusion about Mary's place of trial. Michael Flynn, in his book on the Second Fleet attributes the place as Kilkenny, but Peter Mayberry on his database, states Dublin. Mary arrived in the colony, from Ireland, 26 September 1791 on board "Queen". It would seem that Mary married one Boze Venner (nothing recorded) and had one child, a daughter 1793 but had left Venner for Joseph Butler (Second Fleet Convict, Neptune, 1790) by 1795.