William Ogle

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iain Frazier on 24th May 2025

Family connections for William (Ogle) are: OGLE William (Ogle) was born about 1775 & became a stonemason. He was tried with 2others for highway robbery, on 7 2 1802, of John (Wood) at Old Bailey on 17 2 1802 (quick justice), sentenced to death reprieved to Life, held at Middlesex Gaol Delivery & arrived in NSW as a convict on 7 5 1804 after a voyage of 6months on COROMANDEL; he was Catholic. He was Free by Servitude by 1811. He married Elizabeth (Carter) on 3 8 1812 at St Johns CofE Parramatta.. He is recorded from 1821-4 as policeman in Sydney. He is recorded in 1828 as stonemason with his family at Castlereagh St Sydney. He may have died suddenly in April 1835 age about60 at Horbuch Surry Hills by visitation of God. [Some details taken from this Website] Elizabeth (Carter) daughter of William (Carter) was born about 1788/91 & became a house servant. She was tried for stealing money etc at Somerset Assizes, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 12 7 1806 after a voyage of 6.5months on ALEXANDER; she was Catholic. She was Free by Servitude by 1813. She is recorded in 1828 with her family as housekeeper at Castlereagh St Sydney. She died on 24 9 1840 age52/9 by accidental overturning of cart & was buried at Hyland cemetery East Maitland. [Some details taken from this Website] William (Ogle) & Elizabeth (Carter) produced maybe 7children: 1a.Noted a Mary (Ogle) is recorded as born in 1807 in Van Diemens Land (Tasmania) in 1807-no parents given] 1.Ann (Ogle) was born in 1807. She married Robert (Bussell) cabinet maker with permission on 14 3 1825 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. She died in 1871 age about64. ..Robert (Bussi/ell the younger/junior) was born about 1794 & became a carpenter. He was tried for burglary of a house at Devon Assizes in 1822, sentenced to death commuted to Life & arrived in NSW as a convict on 4 3 1823 after a voyage of 5months on SURREY; he was 5'9.5" dark complexion black hair hazel eyes. He recieved permission to marry on 9 2 1825 in Sydney. He was issued his Absolute Pardon in 1835. He died about 1873 age78. He was a cabinet maker in 1825. ..[Some details taken from this Website] .. 2.Mary (Ogle) was born in 1809. She married at age16 Robert (Voysey) carpenter with permission on 10 1 1825 at St Phillips CofE Sydney; & also sought assignment of her husband to herself. She died in 1844 age about35. ..Robert (Voysey/Vorsey/Voisey/Vose) was born about 1798 & became a carpenter. He was tried for stealing carpenters tools etc at Devon Quarter Sessions on 18 1 1822, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 4 3 1823 after a voyage of 5months on SURREYslso. In 1824 he was a servant of George (Cutter) when he received permission to marry on 7 12 1824 in Sydney. He was a carpenter in 1825 & a blacksmith servant of George (Cutter) in Pitt St. He was recorded in 1828 as wheelwright at Camden working for George (Cutler). He was issued his Certificate of Freedom no.29/527 on 5 6 1829; described as 5'9.5" fair ruddy complexion light brown hair brown eyes scar on forehead. He died, as (Voyrea), on 28 1 1841 age42 at Port Macquarie. ..[Some details taken from this Website] .. 3.John (Ogle) was born on 8 9 1811 & baptised on 19 11 1811 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He died in 1888 age about76. (Smees records show him dying in 1854 age about52] 4.William (Ogle) was born on 13 1 1813 at Windsor & baptised on 13 1 1814 at St Matthews CofE Windsor. He died on 21 12 1866 age53. 5.Elizabeth (Ogle) was born in 1815. She is recorded in 1828 with her parents at Castlereagh St Sydney. She died on 6 3 1872 age about56. 6.Catherine (Ogle) was born in 1817. She is recorded in 1828 as Protestant at School of Industry. 7.Thomas W (Ogle) was born in 1821. He is recorded in 1828 with his parents at Castlereagh St Sydney. He died in 1888 age about67. Reference: Craig James Smee 'Births and Baptisms Marriages and Defacto Relationships Deaths and Burials New South Wales 1788-1830' ..a complete listing from church & other records in the early colony.

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Maureen Withey on 17th July 2022

This may refer to the death of this William Ogle. A Coroner's Inquest was held on Monday, at the Horbuch, Surry Hills, on the body of an elderly man named William Ogle, who suddenly expired while eating an egg, the previous afternoon. It appeared that Ogle had been unwell for some time, and the Jury returned a verdict of died by the visitation of God. Sydney Monitor, 15 Apr 1835.

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Maureen Withey on 17th July 2022

Colonial Secretary Index. OGLE, William. Per "Coromandel", 1804. 1821 Sep 8 Constable. On list of all persons victualled from H.M. Magazines; with his wife and two children (Reel 6016; 4/5781 p.60) 1822 Signatory to petition from the ordinary constables of Sydney complaining of the diminution of their rations (Reel 6055; 4/1760 p.43c) 1822 Oct 17 On list of persons receiving an assigned convict (Fiche 3290; 4/4570D p.19) 1822 Dec 27-1825 Aug 30 On pay lists of constables employed at Sydney (Reel 6029, 4/7016A pp.14-216, 4/7016B pp.6-208 & 4/7016C pp.21-384; Reel 6030, 4/7016D pp.20-386; Reel 6061, 4/1779 pp.154c, 163b & 4/1780 pp.190b, 207b, 222c) 1823 Mar On list of constables in Sydney from Sep 1820 to Mar 1823 (Reel 6056; 4/1764 p.63) 1824 On list of constables doing duty in Sydney and its environs requiring slop clothing (Reel 6017; 4/5782 p.94) 1824 May 22, Jun 4,11 On lists of constables doing duty for the town of Sydney and its vicinity who are entitled to a weekly ration (Reel 6061; 4/1779 pp.97c, 119c, 140c) 1824 Dec 31 On list of district and other constables doing duty in Sydney and its vicinity (Reel 6063; 4/1784 p.314a)

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Maureen Withey on 27th October 2021

NSW 1828 Census Index. William Ogle, age 58, C.P. Coromandel 1804, Life, Catholic, Stonemason, Castlereagh Street, Sydney. Elizabeth Ogle. Age 13, B.C., catholic. Thomas Ogle, age 7, B.C. Catholic. And, separate entry: Elizabeth Carter, age 40, F.S. Alexander, 1806, 7 years, catholic, Housekeeper, Wm. Ogle, Castlereagh St, Sydney. Also on listed in the index is: Catherine Ogle, B.C. School of Industry, Sydney. protestant. (Age is not given.)

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Maureen Withey on 10th September 2021

Old Bailey Proceedings Online WALTER DUGGAN, JAMES CONDON, WILLIAM OGLE, Violent Theft > highway robbery, 17th February 1802. 194. WALTER DUGGAN JAMES CONDON , and WILLIAM OGLE , were indicted for making an assault, in the King's highway, on the 7th of February , upon John Wood , putting him in fear, and taking from his person a silver watch, value 5l. two seven-shilling-pieces, two shillings, and a six-pence , the property of the said John. JOHN WOOD sworn. - Q. What are you? - A. Agent to the Harefield Lime-Company . Q. Were you robbed on the 7th of this month? - A. Yes. Q. What day of the week was it? - A. Sunday. Q. Where were you going? - A. I was going home to Southall. Q. At what time? - A. Between six and seven o'clock. Q. Were you alone? - A. Yes. Q. Were you on horseback? - A. Yes. Q. How far had you got on the road before any thing happened? - A. I was going down the other side of Notting-Green-hill, near Kensington Gravel-Pits, upon the Uxbridge road ; I was riding along the foot-path, just at the top of the hill, when I saw a man; I turned off; then the prisoner Condon laid hold of the horse's bridle. Q. Where was he? - A. He was in the high road; the other two came up, one on the right hand, and the other on the left hand, and took me up upon the foot-path; I asked them what they wanted of me. Q. They had not spoke to you? - A. I don't recollect that they had; Condon pulled a pistol out, held it up to me, and said, he wanted my money; he was distressed for money, and money he must have; I said, he should have what little money I had, and welcome; I then put my hand into my pocket to take out what I had, while Condon put his hand over the horse's neck, and felt the watch-chain; the seal was tucked in my pocket; there was only a link or so out; he rugged two or three times, and broke the chain, and put that in his waistcoat-pocket; one of them then desired me to pull the watch our myself, I cannot say which of them it was; I had some difficulty in getting the watch out of a long sob, and Duggan said, shoot, d - n you, shoot; I got the watch out, and gave it to Condon; I dropped my glove; I said to them, be so kind as pick my glove up; Condon picked it up, and gave it to me; as I turned off the foot-path into the road to go away, a fourth person then, whom I had not seen before, stood by, and said, is it done? Duggan said, yes, or something to that purpose, and then I left them; he was at about thirty yards distance. Q. Then you saw no more of them? - A. No. Q. You have spoke to Condon being the principal person concerned, and you have spoke to Duggan telling him to shoot - what did Ogle do? - A. He assisted in bringing me up upon the footpath. Q. Have you any thing else to say? - A. I met with a person who sent the patrol after them; Duggan had something in his hand, I thought it was a cane or a sword, I cannot say; I was minding the pistol that was against my breast. Q. Was the night dark, or how? - A. It was very light, moonlight. Q. How long might this take up? - A. Three or four minutes. Q. Do you recollect how they were dressed? - A. Yes; Ogle stood at the right hand of mewith a light-coloured coat on, and the other two had dark coats. Q. Had they hats on their heals? - A. Yes. Q. What sort of hats? - A. I did not take particular notice what sort of hats. Q. Common round hats, or slapped over their faces? - A. I did not see any thing particular, they were common round hats. Q. Did the moon shine towards you, in your face, or on your back? - A. The moon shone upon my back. Q. Then you had an opportunity of seeing their faces distinctly? - A. Yes, I saw them very plain. Q. How far were you from them when you first discovered them? - A. I was but just got out of Kensington Gravel-pits, I suppose nothing near one hundred yards from the last house. Q. Do you mean positively to say, that you had so fair a view of them as to enable you to speak positively to their persons? - A. Yes, I think I had without a doubt; Condon and Ogle I have not the least doubt of; and Duggan I think I have no doubt of; the fourth person was shorter than either of these. Q. When did you see them afterwards? - A. On the Thursday following, at Bow-street. Q. Do you know whether they were taken up upon your information? - A. I heard they were, which made me come to Bow-street. Q. Who did you give information to? - A. To one Carter, who keeps a cow-yard at Tyburn-gate; I told him if he went any further he would be robbed, he rode very fast, and I believe was afraid of me; I told him I was a friend, and he went back with me to Shepherd's-bush; he said the patrol could not be far off, and he would send them after the men; he rode home before the coach. Q. Did you know them immediately, when you saw them at Bow-street? - A. Yes. Q. Were there any other persons with them when you saw them at Bow-street, or were they brought up by themselves? - A. There was nobody else. Q. Had they the same clothes on that they had when they robbed you? - A. It appeared so to me; one had a light-coloured coat, and the other two, dark ones. Q. Were they in great coats, or common coats? - A. Common coats. Cross-examined by Mr. Knapp. (Counsel for Duggan and Condon.) Q. Had you never seen any of these persons before? - A. No. Q. Not before this transaction that you have been speaking of? - A. No. Q. There were three persons, and another person coming up afterwards, attacking you, I should think you must have been a little agitated? - A. It was very little indeed. Q. This was between six and seven o'clock in the evening? - A. Yes. Q. There was nobody by? - A. No. Q. Nobody passing along the road? - A. No. Q. And yet you were very little agitated when three or four persons were attacking you in this way? - A. Very little. Q. One person having a pistol at your breast, and another desiring that person to shoot, and yet you were very little agitated? - A. Very little indeed. Q. You have no doubt at all of the persons of these men? - A. I have not. Q. Did I understand you right, when my Lord put the question to you, that you did not know what was in the hand of the other person? - A. I saw something in his hand that looked like a sword. Q. Though you are able to speak to the persons of these men, you cannot say what that was? - A. It was either a stick, a cane, or a sword. Q. Did you not say you did not look particularly, because the pistol was at your breast? - A. I did not particularly. Q. Had they round hats on? - A. I did not take particular notice of their hats. Q. Do try and recollect? - A. I make no doubt but they had, I cannot say. Q. Whether they had round hats on or not, you cannot say; but as to their faces under round hats, you have no doubt of? - A. No. Q. You went to Bow-street with the expectation of seeing the persons who had robbed you? - A. Certainly I did. Q. When you went into the room at Bow-street, were they not pointed out to you as the persons who had committed the robbery? - A. They were not pointed out. Q. Were you not told those were the persons who were charged to have robbed you? - A. Yes. Q. They were not mixed with others for you to pick them out? - Q. No; they were brought out and I identified them immediately. Q. You know, I dare say, or have heard since this business, that there are three forty pounds reward, that is one hundred and twenty pounds, if these men are convicted? - A. I have never heard it, no body has said any thing to me. Q. Have you never heard that there is a forty pounds reward upon the conviction of a highwayman? - A. Yes. Q. Do you not expect to have a share of these rewards? - A. I never understood that, I understood those who took them would have it; I never heard of any thing of the kind in my life. Q. Where have you lived all your life then? - A. I have lived in Warwick, and in Gloucestershire. Q. And near town? - A. Not long. Q. How long have you lived at Southall? - A. Six months. Q. Have you not been in company with the Bow-street officers? - A. Yes; but I never heard any thing about a reward from them. Cross-examined by Mr. Alley. (Counsel for Ogle.) Q. Have you never said, Ogle was the man who kept at a distance? - A. No, I never did; Ogle was the man who stood at the right-hand of me. Q. Have you never heard it said, by the officers, that Ogle must have been the man? - A. No; no such thing was ever mentioned. Court. Q. Did you ever get your watch again? - A. No. CHRISTOPHER CRIDLAND sworn. - Q. What do you know of this? - A. I am one of the patrols of Bow-street: On Sunday evening, the 7th of this month, I heard there were three or four footpads on the Uxbridge-road; I went with three others of our people, Barrett, Barker, and Griffiths, and as we were going into the country, we met with the three men at the bar, near Bayswater. Q. Do you mean to say you had heard of this robbery that night? - A. Yes; just before I met the prisoners; I laid hold of Duggan, and on the right-hand side, inside his coat, I found this pistol,(produces it); upon further searching him, in his pockets I found two seven-shilling-pieces, two sixpences, and one halfpenny; then I took him to the watch-house. Q. How were they dressed? - A. I believe two of them were in blue, but the middleman, Condon, had a light-coloured coat on, they had round hats. Mr. Knapp. Q. Round slapped hats? - A. Common round hats. Q. There was other money found I suppose? - A. Yes; three guineas, and two half guineas, in a little purse. Q. This was about eight o'clock? - A. Between seven and eight. Q. Some distance from Notting-green? - A. I suppose about a mile, or a mile and a quarter. Q. The pistol was not loaded? - A. No. Mr. Alley. Q. You found nothing upon Ogle but four shillings? - A. No. Q. You are sure it was Condon that had the light-coloured coat on, and not Ogle? - A. Yes. Q. That is an old pistol with the handle knocked off? - A. Yes. Court. (To Wood.) Q. I forgot to ask you what you were robbed of besides the watch? - A. Two seven-shilling-pieces, and about half-a-crown. Q. I suppose you cannot swear to any of the money? - A. No. THOMAS BARRETT sworn. - Q. You were with Cridland? - A. Yes; I searched Condon, and found upon him a watch chain, a seven-shilling-piece, a shilling, a handkerchief, and a pair of gloves. (Produces them.) Q. Is the watch-chain broke? - A. The gentleman said it was. Q. Does it appear to be broke? - A. There is no part of it broke that I can see. SAMUEL BARKER sworn. - Q. Who did you search? - A. Condon; I found upon him three guineas, and two half-guineas, in gold, in a purse. Q. Not upon Condon? - A. Yes; after he had been searched by Barrett; I also found upon him this cane. (Produces a cane with a leaden-bead.) DANIEL GRIFFITHS sworn. - Q. Who did you search? - A. Ogle. Q. What did you find? - A. One half-crown, a shilling, a sixpence, and sixpence halfpenny in halfpence. Court. (To Wood.) Q. Is that your chain? - A. Yes; this is the chain that I lost. Q. It does not appear to me to be broke? - A. The ring is broke from the watch, I cannot tell how many links there were. Mr. Knapp. Q. There is no appearance of any one of the links being broke? - A. I will swear that is my chain. Q. It is a very common chain? - A. Yes. Q. Are you positive Ogle had a light-coloured coat on? - A. Yes. The prisoners did not say any thing in their defence. Condon called three, and Duggan and Ogle four witnesses each, who gave them a good character. Condon, GUILTY, Death , aged 30. Duggan, GUILTY, Death , aged 20. Ogle, GUILTY, Death , aged 30. The prisoners were recommended to mercy by the Jury, on account of their having used no personal violence, and the pistol not being loaded . Second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Baron Hotham.

sentanced to life for holding up a policeman and eventually stealing his bread...thats what happens when you mess with Lahiff