Elizabeth Seney

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iain Frazier on 14th January 2026

Family connections for Elizabeth (Seney) are: SENEY ??? (Siene) produced perhaps 2children: 1.Elizabeth (Seney/Siene/Seaney) was born about 1769. She was tried w/5others for stealing (on 24 9 1787) & receiving silver items of Mrs (Clutson) of Bristol Somersetshire (& giving some to her brother James (Seine)) at Bristol Quarter Sessions, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 3 6 1790 after a voyage of 12months on LADY JULIANA-a ship with 228females who easily entertained the whole crew & also sailors at Teneriffe stopover; she was sent to Norfolk Island on SURPRISE arriving on 7 8 1790. She married Joseph (Trimby aka Elliott) in November 1791 in group ceremony on Norfolk Island (according to her entry on this Website-although the wedding is not listed in a document referring to this event); her name is recorded as (Seaney) on their marriage document-according to this Website); she produced 3children. The Norfolk Island references record their marriage in 1794. She died in 1798/9 (as did her son) age about29 & was buried on Norfolk Island. ..[Some information taken from this Website] ..Joseph (Trimby aka Elliott) son of Richard (Trimby) & Christian (Elliott) was born about 1767 at Horningsham Wiltshire & became a gardener. He was tried as Joseph (Elliott) for theft of tobacco pouch at Bristol city Quarter Sessions Gloucestershire, sentenced to 7years, held on hulk DUNKIRK & arrived in NSW as a convict on 21 1 1788 after a voyage of 8months on FRIENDSHIP. He was sentenced on 25 5 1790 to 300lashes for stealing potatos of Richard (Johnson) & lost flour ration for 6months & was chained to 2convicts for 6months. He was sentenced in December 1790 to another 100lashes (73 received) for shirking work. He is recorded in Norfolk Island references as arriving on Norfolk Island in 1793. He was recorded with a land grant on 30 12 1796-plot no.51 of 54acres east of Queensborough. He was moved with 2sons to Port Dalrymple Van Diemens Land (Tasmania) as part of the second evacuation on 20 1/18 2 1813 on HMS LADY NELSON, arriving on 1 3 1813. He was recorded at Port Dalrymple on 15 2 1813. In September 1813 he had been granted land. In 1818 he was convicted (as James so could this actually be his son) at Central Court of Criminal Jurisdiction & was to be sent to Port Macquarie NSW on HMS LADY NELSON. In 1819-22 he is recorded as (Trimley). On 8 1 1825 he was at Newcastle for his Ticket of Leave application. He died on 25 6 1836 age69 at Hunter NSW & was buried at Glebe cemetery East Maitland. ..[Some information taken from this Website] .. 2.James (Seney/Siene) was tried perhaps for receiving (on 24 9 1787) stolen silver items from his sister Elizabeth (Seine) [he also passed on stolen bed tick, in June 1788, to Ann (Harper)] at Bristol Gaol Delivery Somersetshire, sentenced to Life & arrived in NSW as a convict on 26 6 1790 after a voyage of 7months on Fleet ship SURPRISE; a voyage noted for extreme brutality of prisoners with a high death rate. ..[Some information taken from this Website] References: Craig James Smee 'Births and Baptisms Marriages and Defacto Relationships Deaths and Burials New South Wales 1788-1830' ..a complete listing from church & other records in the early colony. Irene Schaffer & Thelma McKay 'Exiled Three Times Over! Profiles of Norfolk Islanders Exiled in Van Diemens Land 1807-1813' James Hugh Donohoe 'Norfolk Island 1788-1813-The People and Their Families' Reg Wright 'Forgotten Generation of Norfolk Island & Van Diemens Land'

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Darryl Buley on 20th February 2021

On 24th Sep 1787 in the morning in Bristol, Ann Harper (17) along with Margaret Williams (13), Alice Fideo and Elizabeth Seney (18) were all on Bristol Bridge selling grapes. Margaret told the girls she knew where they could get a silver teapot and they went together over the Drawbridge to Denmark Street and stopped at number 11 which was owned by Nancy Clutson. Margaret unlatched the door and went inside where she stayed for some time. When she came back out the four girls ran away to Medcliff Church Yard. Margaret showed the other girls 9 silver teaspoons, 2 silver tablespoons and a silver cream jug. They all agreed to go to someone Norris' house on Redcliff Hill to sell the things. Alice said that Elizabeth and Margaret went into the house and when they came out they told her they'd sold 2 of the spoons and spent the money on victuals. Then Margaret gave them each 2 spoons and supposedly they all gave these to Elizabeth's brother (James Seine) to sell but never heard from him again. They were found out and a few people such as maids, neighbours and a friend of Norris testified and a maid from Nancy Clutson's house also said that an amount of eight shillings were also stolen. Despite Ann not actually doing the stealing she was punished because she was aware of it and received the goods. Alice also gave evidence and went to jail. The other three including Ann were transported for seven years.

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wendy cole on 2nd January 2020

Elizabeth was charge with Margaret Williams,Ann Harper and Alice Fidoe for stealing. Ann is believed to have stolen the silver items, but the others, knew & were waiting outside. Ann's mother Jane Elizabeth & Ann's sister Elizabeth were also on the Lady Juliana with them charged for receiving stolen items. Elizabeth was transported as Seney married Joseph Trimby aka Elliott (Friendship 1788)in the mass wedding on Norfolk Is in November 1791, by Rev, Richard Johnson. Elizabeth's last name is spelt as Seaney on that document. Elizabeth has 3 sons with Joseph on Norfolk, James, Joseph(jnr)and William. Elizabeth & William died in either 1798 or 1799 & are buried there, William was an infant.Her husband died in Maitland NSW in 1836 and is buried in Historical Glebe Cemetery, East Maitland. Joseph never married again and loved and looked after his 2 sons. James died in 1828 and it is believed Joseph is there with him. The First Fleeters Fellowship restored the grave site.

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wendy cole on 2nd January 2020

Dorothy James on 17th September, 2014 wrote: Alice was charged with stealing a silver cream jug & 11 silver spoons on 24/09/1787 from Mrs Clutson’s house at 11 Denmark Street, Bristol. However, she saved herself from prosecution by turning states evidence & implicating her accomplices - Elizabeth Seine, Ann Harper & Margaret Williams (all on-board the Lady Juliana!). However, Ann was tried & found guilty of receiving bed tick stolen from a shop in Bristol by James Seine (Elizabeth’s brother!) the followiwng June. She was sentenced to 14 years transportation. She embarked on the Lady Juliana (together with her mother, sister & fellow accomplices) bound for Port Jackson, NSW. She was subsequently transperred to Norfolk Island, where she cohabited with George Egglestone, a 1st Fleet convict from the Alexander. They had a small farm at Sydney Town, NI. George joined the NSW Corps on 12/07/1794 & later that month, they left Norfolk Island on board the Francis, to return to Port Jackson, NSW. However, George returned to Norfolk Island on board HMS Supply in October 1795 without Alice. Dorothy James on 17th September, 2014 wrote: In the 1800 muster roll Alice is living with James Partridge (unsure which one).However he returned to England the following year without her. In the 1806 muster roll for Parramatta, Alice is now living with Neil McCloud (Admiral Barrington).There are no children. In the 1814 muster roll, Alice is described as Neil’s wife. Unfortunately,there appears to be no record of their marriage. He was living in the Windsor district, but she was in the Liverpool area. Did they have 2 farms? Alice died in January 1819. She is buried as Alice McLeod in St Phillip’s Cemetery in Sydney. 02/01/2020 Wendy Cole wrote.Elizabeth Seney married Joseph Trimby aka Elliott in 1791 Norfolk Island, had 3 sons, James, Joseph (jnr) and William. William and Elizabeth died and are buried on Forfolk Is. in 1798 or 1799.

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wendy cole on 2nd January 2020

Dorothy James on 17th September, 2014 wrote: Alice was charged with stealing a silver cream jug & 11 silver spoons on 24/09/1787 from Mrs Clutson’s house at 11 Denmark Street, Bristol. However, she saved herself from prosecution by turning states evidence & implicating her accomplices - Elizabeth Seine, Ann Harper & Margaret williams (all onboard the Lady Juliana!). However, Ann was tried & found guilty of receiving bed tick stolen from a shop in Bristol by James Seine (Elizabeth’s brother!) the followiwng June. She was sentenced to 14 years transportation. She embarked on the Lady Juliana (together with her mother, sister & fellow accomplices) bound for Port Jackson, NSW. She was subsequently transperred to Norfolk Island, where she cohabited with George Egglestone, a 1st Fleet convict from the Alexander. They had a small farm at Sydney Town, NI. George joined the NSW Corps on 12/07/1794 & later that month, they left Norfolk Island on board the Francis, to return to Port Jackson, NSW. However, George returned to Norfolk Island on board HMS Supply in October 1795 without Alice. Dorothy James on 17th September, 2014 wrote: In the 1800 muster roll Alice is living with James Partridge (unsure which one).However he returned to England the following year without her. In the 1806 muster roll for Parramatta, Alice is now living with Neil McCloud (Admiral Barrington).There are no children. In the 1814 muster roll, Alice is described as Neil’s wife. Unfortunately,there appears to be no record of their marriage. He was living in the Windsor district, but she was in the Liverpool area. Did they have 2 farms? Alice died in January 1819. She is buried as Alice McLeod in St Phillip’s Cemetery in Sydney.

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Eric Harry Daly on 7th January 2013

Elizabeth Seney was the sister of James SIENE (transported as SENEY on the 'Surprise' in 1790)