Ann Turner

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Maureen Withey on 1st September 2025

Tried at the Old Bailey, 24 Oct 1821. 1294. ANN TURNER , MARY ANN SULLIVAN , ELIZA KELLY , and RACHEL SIMMONS , were indicted for feloniously assaulting Lewis Baptiste , on the 23d of October , at St. Mary-le-Strand , putting him in fear, and taking from his person, and against his will, the sum of 13 s. 6 d. in monies numbered, his property . LEWIS BAPTISTE . I lodge in John-street, Bedford-row, at Mr. Riley's, the King's Arms, public-house - Mitchell lives with him also; I am a servant , I left my place on the 17th of September. On the 23d of October, I went with Mitchell into the City, and at five o'clock we were going to Drury-lane Theatre, we went to a house (I do not know the name of the place;) when we got inside, the prisoner Sullivan said to Mitchell "I know you," and asked him up stairs - he went up with her, and I went up with Turner; we two were in a room by ourselves - she demanded 4 s., which I gave her; she then asked for another shilling, and I gave it her - about that time Sullivan came into the room, and said she wanted 1 s., and if I did not give it her, she would knock my brains out, and tear my coat off my back - I gave her 1 s.; Turner then demanded another shilling, which I gave her - Simmons then came into the room, saying she was mistress of the house, and asked for 2 s. 6 d. for the room, I said "If you will let me come down stairs to the street door, I will give you what money I have about me" - Then Sullivan and Turner demanded 2 s. 6 d. each, more; I said, "Let me go down, and I will give you all I have" - they would not agree to this, and the two women knocked me down - Simmons was present then; one of the two women laid hold of my neck, by thrusting her fingers into my cravat - I called out Murder! to my friend, he did not come - I heard one of the three say, they would throw me out of the window; one of them put a chair against the door, I asked them to let me go down stairs. In consequence of their violence I gave 14 s. 6 d. to Turner and Sullivan, and they let me go down stairs - Simmons then opened the door and let me out - I do not think she had any of the 14 s. 6 d.; when I got down, I found my friend alone. Cross-examined by MR. WALFORD. Q. What countryman are you - A. I came from the Isle of France; I have lived with Colonel Fonstein , in Han's-place, and with his father - I left about a month ago, as I was ill; I have got a place now, and am going to the East Indies - I had dined in the City, and I think we had two pints of beer and a glass of rum each at dinner; then we went a little way and had a pint of beer between us - we went to no other public-house, nor had any thing more to drink; I think I was a little in liquor, as I am not accustomed to drink much - I sent my friend to this house to enquire for a young woman whom I knew in France, I had seen her at this house two years before - I did not know what kind of a house it was; I stood at the door, and the girls said the young woman did live there, and they made us go up stairs - she was not a bad girl; Turner said, "Come up stairs, and you will see her," and I went up - I did not promise her any money; I was a quarter of an hour in the room altogether - nothing passed between us, I did not call Sullivan up. Q. Simmons did not attempt to keep you in the room - A. She let me out when I gave the 2 s. 6 d. and the 14 s. 6 d. - she did not put the chair before the door; I did not want to go for an officer, for fear of my character, but my friend took me to Bow-street - I never sent any message to them that I would go to Gravesend, some people came to me. COURT. Q. Do you swear you never had any criminal connexion with them - A. I had not. CHARLES MITCHELL . I am a planter, and lodge with the prosecutor. I went with him to Drury-lane, intending to go to the Theatre; we had dined together in the City, we had two pints of porter between us, and a glass of rum and water - we were going to the Theatre, it wanted a quarter to five o'clock when we got to Drury-lane, we sauntered about and went to several courts; he pointed out a house in Swan-yard, and said, "I knew a young woman, named Mary Ann, who lived there, I wish youwould ask if she is there now, as I am a foreigner," he said he knew her as a lady's maid; I went to the door, which was open, I knocked with my hand against it, and four or five women came up from below; I asked for Mary Ann, they said she did not live there; one of the women said she knew me, I said that was strange, for I had not been in England for eight years; Baytiste stood by the stairs, one of them caught hold of him and went up stairs with him; I went up stairs to follow him, but when I got up, I saw no more of him - I went up to the second story with Sullivan, I said, I thought my friend was there; I had no money, and did not wish to go with her; she said I had better go down stairs and wait till he came, I did so, and sat down in the room on the ground floor; I heard him call me before he came down, he said, "Charles! Charles!" three times; I did not hear a cry of Murder! - when he came down he said he had been robbed; the women were present; there was a good deal of talking, I could not hear what was said; he said he would not leave till he had got his money. I told him he would never get it by waiting there, and went with him to Bow-street. Cross-examined by MR. AIKIN. Q. What planter are you - A. Of sugar canes. I told Sullivan I had no money, she said my friend would pay her, I said, I knew nothing of that - Baptiste called out to me while I was down stairs, nothing passed about his having no money - I do not know what became of Sullivan, I was down in the parlour, he did not call her up; I heard feet shuffling about - it is a small house, I think if he had called Murder! lustily, I should have heard him; when he came down, he said he had been robbed of 2 l., but on coming out, he found he had a sovereign and two or three shillings left; then he reckoned his money, and said he had given them 13 s. 6 d. in silver, and 13 d. in copper; he said he was robbed, and had given them money, that one demanded 2 s. 6 d., another 3 s. and 1 s. and another 4 s. Q. When he called out Charles! if you thought he wanted assistance, you would have gone to him - A. I did endeavour, but Kelly was in the parlour, and said, If I tried to go out, she would tear my liver out - I got hold of the door to open it, she prevented me, and said she was in the family way, and would swear her life against me - I said, I was not going to fight with her, and sat down; I was detained in the parlour about five minutes, Baptiste came down soon after he cried for me. BENJAMIN MORRIS. I am a constable of Bow-street. The prosecutor came to me, I took him to Swan-yard, and found them all (the prisoners) at the house; the last witness pointed out Kelly, and the prosecutor the other three; he said, in their presence, that they had robbed and beat him up stairs. TURNER'S Defence. Two gentlemen came and asked for Mary Ann, we said she was not there; he said, "You will do the same, let us go up, we went up," he wanted us to do wrong, but we refused. SULLIVAN'S Defence. We were down at dinner, Mitchell asked if I knew him, he said, "Come up stairs," and offered me 2 s., I said that was too little, he said his friend would pay me; he did as he liked, I went down and he gave me 1 s.; I saw no more of him. KELLY'S Defence. The gentleman came into the parlour, and being a stranger, I was in care of the parlour; he would pay nobody but the landlady for the room, she went up for it, I remained in the parlour, the man went towards the door, and I said he should not go till his friend came down, if he did, I would tear his coat, he pushed me, I said, "Don't, for I am in the family way." SIMMONS'S Defence. He sent word that he would pay nobody but me, and I went up. CHARLES MITCHELL . I did not propose to give Sullivan 2 s., or say my friend would pay for me. TURNER - GUILTY . - DEATH . Aged 16. SULLIVAN - GUILTY . - DEATH . Aged 16. Recommended to Mercy by the Jury. KELLY - NOT GUILTY . SIMMONS - NOT GUILTY . Second Middlesex Jury, before Mr. Justice Park.

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Maureen Withey on 1st September 2025

Ann Turner, per Mary Anne, 1822, Ticket of Leave, No 38/1665. District, Parramatta; Born, London; Trade, Servant; Tried, MGD.

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Maureen Withey on 1st September 2025

NSW BMD. Marriage Reg. Ref: 3575/1825, Lazarus Levy and Ann Turner were married in CB district (Church of England, Parramatta, St Johns) Police. Saturday, January 21, 1837. Ann Levy, assigned to her husband Lazarus Levy of Brickfield Hill, dealer, was charged by her husband with drunkenness, and demolishing seventeen panes of glass in his window. Complainant stated that he had given the prisoner permission to make application for her Ticket-of-Leave, but desired her to return home sober, which she promised to do. She returned home about three o'clock, find without shewing why or wherefore, she commenced an attack upon his windows inflicting damage to the amount of 15?. Sentenced to be confined in the Third Class of the Factory for two months, and to be returned to service. "Oh! no your worship," (said the complainant) "'I'll rather be excused, she'll never come back again to me if I knows it; I've had too much on her already; she was the cause my being lagged. Mr. Gisborne informed the complainant, that as he had taken her "for better or for worse," he would be compelled to take her after the completion of her sentence. Complainant said, he would put her into the Bishop's Classical (Ecclesiastical) Court, and get divorced first; and full of this determination he left the Court. Sydney Monitor, 25 Jan 1837.

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iain Frazier on 11th May 2025

Family connections for Ann (Turner) are: TURNER Ann (Turner) was born about 1807. She was tried at probably Old Bailey on 24 10 1821, sentenced to Life, held at Middlesex Gaol Delivery & arrived in Hobart Town Van Diemens Land (Tasmania)-or maybe disembarked in NSW-as a convict on 2 5 1822 after a voyage of 4months on MARY ANN/E. She had a relationship, perhaps her first, with Henry (Badgery) & produced 1child.>>> [Some details taken from this Website] Henry (Badgery) was born on 10 10 1803. He died on 18 11 1880 age77.>>> .. >>>Ann (Turner) was recorded in 1828 as Ann (Levy) with Lazarus (Levy). She was issued her Ticket of Leave no.38/1665 on 16 10 1838 at Parramatta-she was a servant. She was issued her Conditional Pardon no.44/120 on 1 2 1843. Noted a Lazarus (Levy-arrived 1818 ISABELLA) has an entry on this Website] Reference: Craig James Smee 'Births and Baptisms Marriages and Defacto Relationships Deaths and Burials New South Wales 1788-1830' ..a complete listing from church & other records in the early colony.

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Iris Dunne on 3rd June 2022

Indents: aged 16 years (birth abt. 1805) Arrived in Hobart Town 2 May 1822 Ticket of Leave No. 38/1665 dated 16 October 1838 in Parramatta Trade Servant Conditional Pardon No. 44/120 dated 1 February 1843 Conviction 24 October 1821 Aged 36 years, birth year 1807

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jennifer burgess on 27th May 2022

Ann Turner appears on the 1828 census as Ann Levy married to Lazarus Levy