Thomas Williams

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Tony Beale on 16th August 2020

Hulk Registers (Cumberland, Dolphin, and Ganymede only) 1818-1839 Record ID fhrTNA/CCC/ADM6/418/2528 Full record at findmypast.co.uk (requires subscription) Data created by Find My Past.Original records held by The National Archives (UK) 1832 Surname Williams Given names Thomas Age 23 Birth year 1809, Occupation Clerk, Gender m British Transportation Registers 1787-1867 Record ID btr113793 Search this database at the State Library of Queensland website Data created by State Library of Queensland Original records held by The National Archives (UK) More about this record set 13th June 1832 Colony New South Wales Sentence term 21 Ship Planter Tried at London Gaol Delivery Trial year 1832 Old Bailey Online 5th April 1832 First London Jury, before Mr. Recorder. 812. THOMAS WILLIAMS was indicted for stealing, on the 14th of March , 6 merino shirts, value 4s., the goods of William Matthews , from the person of John Read . JOHN READ. I am in the employ of Mr. William Matthews, hosier and glover , St. Martin's-le-grand. On the 14th of March, about seven o'clock, a man came for some linen shirts - we told him we did not deal in linen shirts - he then said he would look at some flannel ones, which were not fine enough; he selected six merino ones, and said if I went with him to Newgate-street he would pay for them there - I went with him, carrying the shirts, and just at the corner of St. Martin's-le-grand he told me to wait there, and he would come and pay me- I kept the goods; he crossed Newgate-street, then came back, and told me to come to Queen's Arms-passage; I went with him, and then he told me to give the shirts to him - I said I wanted the money first; he said that gentleman, meaning the prisoner, who was there, would pay for them - I did not know the prisoner before; I went up to the prisoner, and asked him for the money; he said he wanted the bill of them - I told him the person who ordered them had got the bill in his pocket; he called after him, but he did not come back - the prisoner then told me to come to Love-lane, to the other person's lodging, and he would pay me there; I went with him to Love-lane, Wood-street, and then he said he must go to Aldermanbury, to Mr. Coster's, in Fountain-court - I went with him there; he led me up into the corner, by the Baptist's Head coffee-house, then laid hold of me, struck me in the mouth, and knocked me down; the person who ordered the shirts had taken them from me in Newgate-street - I should know him again; I got up, called Stop thief! and he was stopped - I am certain of his person; the shirts came to 24s. - on the Friday after the shirts were left at Mr. Matthews' shop, by a porter of the Bull and Mouth inn, with this paper; (reads) "The goods not having been paid for, must beg to return them"- the goods were taken from me by force, by the person who ordered them; I am sure the prisoner is the person to whom he referred for payment, and who struck and knocked me down. GEORGE RAY . I am porter to Price and Co., and live in East-court, Foster-lane. I was in Cateaton-street about half-past seven o'clock in the evening, and heard a cry of Stop thief! in Church-passage, which I was going up; I saw the prisoner running, and stopped him- I saw Read shortly after, who said he had robbed him and knocked him down; the prisoner said nothing at the time. THOMAS ARMSTRONG . I am a constable. I heard a cry of Stop Thief! and the prisoner was immediately given into my charge; he was struggling to get from Ray. JOHN READ . The prisoner was not present when the man took the goods from under my arm, but when I was See originalClick to see original at the end of Queen Anne's-passage; he referred me to him for payment - he was in sight when the goods were taken from me and could see them taken, and he said if I went with him to Fountain-court, he would pay me for them. GUILTY . Aged. 24. - Transported for Life . Convict Indents (Ship and Arrivals Registers) 1788-1868 Record ID cin29885 15th October 1832 Age 25 Birth year 1807 Colony NSW Sentence term 21 Ship Planter (1) Height (in inches) 63 Religion protestant Tried at london Birthplace devonshire Offence details false pretences Eliza Cummins in the New South Wales, Australia, Convict Applications for the Publication of Banns, 1828-1830, 1838-1839 Name: Eliza Cummins Gender: Female Arrival year:1833 Arriving Vessel:Planter Spouse Name:Thomas Williams Spouse Gender: Male Spouse Arrival Year:1822 Spouse Vessel: Andromeda Marriage Year:Abt 1839 Application Date:18 Mar 1839 H H Parker certified that he would keep them both in his service until the man gets his freedom or TOL. Both were on a bond and Thomas had received a life sentence. Applied in Port Macquarie.Both were described as of good character and the marriage was allowed. Eliza Cummins in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950. Name: Eliza Cummins Spouse Name:Thomas Williams Marriage Date:1839 Marriage Place: New South Wales Registration Place:Melbourne, New South Wales Registration Year:1839 Volume Number: V