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William Woodman, one of 230 convicts transported on the Arab, 22 February 1834
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life span was 58 years*
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Conviction & Transportation
Sentenced to 7 years
||Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 90, Class and Piece Number HO11/9, Page Number 293 (148)
||This record is one of the entries in the British convict transportation registers 1787-1867 database compiled by State Library of Queensland from British Home Office (HO) records which are available on microfilm as part of the Australian Joint Copying Project.
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D Wong on 26th October, 2019 wrote:
Theft: simple larceny.
28th November 1833
WILLIAM WOODMAN was indicted for stealing, on the 2nd of November, at St. Luke, 1 watch, value 2l. , the goods of Thomas Jerome.
JOSEPH JEROME. I am assistant to my brother Thomas, he lives at No. 6, Union-street, Bishopsgate, and is a pawnbroker. I was in his shop on the 2nd of November, and the prisoner came in to pawn two watches; I sent the boy up stairs with them; I was then called to the the door, and remained there about two minutes; when I came back I saw the prisoner in a state of confusion, with his hands just put into his pockets; the boy then came down stairs, and told the prisoner the price he wanted for the two watches, was too much; the prisoner took them up, went as far as the door, and told the boy he had provided enough for his to-morrow’s dinner, and he did not mind about pawning the watches; he then went away, and I missed this silver hunting watch from the back counter, when the gentleman came down from dinner, which was about twenty minutes after the prisoner was gone; it had been on the back counter in that part of the shop where the prisoner stood, when I was called to the door; if I don’t swear altogether to the watch, I can to this piece of ribbon which was inside, and the words which are on it; this watch is in all respects like the one we lost, and the number and name which is Reynolds, are entered in our book; it had been pawned by Mrs. Edwards, for 1l. 12s.; on the Wednesday after the prisoner came to our shop again, and offered a hunting watch to pawn, which was not one of those he had offered on the 2nd of November, and I sent for an officer; this watch had been on the back counter, and the prisoner could get it by opening the hatch door of the front counter, or he might have got over the counter; I don’t think I should have seen him.
Prisoner. Q. Have you any shop in the parish of St. Luke’s, Middlesex? A. No, our shop is in Bishopsgate, in the City of London; you were taken before the Lord Mayor, but the watch not having been found, you were discharged, but on the following evening, my brother was going by a pawnbroker’s shop, and he stepped in, and found the watch; I cannot tell how far our counter is across, but you could not reach the watch with your arm, you must have got over the counter, or gone through the hatch.
COURT. Q. Your house is in Bishopsgate? A. Yes; in Union-street, Bishopsgate, in the City of London; I believe it is next door to the County of Middlesex; it is not five hundred yards off.
Prisoner. Q. Have I not been in the habit of frequenting your brother’s shop? A. I have seen him before; he has been to pawn watches now and then; he has sold the duplicates, and brought persons to redeem them; I know nothing of my brother requesting you to take a forged duplicate of a gold watch; I did not make out a duplicate in the name of Moss for 5l.; I know nothing about it; all I know is, that you came and said, a gentleman wanted a gold watch, and one was produced which weighed one ounce, it was worth 4l. 10s., and you wished the duplicate to be made for 5l.
COURT. Q. What is the prisoner? A. I believe he deals in watches; when he was taken fifty-six duplicates were found on him, and twenty-five were for watches.
Prisoner. Having received the two watches back, I said, “Your brother gives very bad prices, but never mind, I have sufficient to get a Sunday’s dinner to-morrow;” not, as he insinuates, by stealing his watch, but I had pawned one watch that day, and got 8s. profit by it.
CHARLES WORLEY. I am shopman to Mr. Castle, a pawnbroker in Old-street, St. Luke’s. I was there on the evening of the 2nd of November, and the prisoner came in and offered two or three watches - out of the number I selected this one, on which I lent him 30s.; he pawned it in the name of Wood - I have seen him on and off for several years; I always considered him a sort of dealer in watches or anything - I am quite sure this is the watch he pawned.
Prisoner. Were there not several other persons in the shop? Witness. I don’t think there were more than three persons - I don’t remember any other person bringing a watch at that time; but you brought this, and I took it of you; you offered two others; I said they did not suit me, and then you pulled this out - I don’t think you pawned one on the day before; I remembered your person, but did not recollect your name at the moment, you told me it was Wood, and I put Wood.
SARAH EDWARDS. I am the wife of Richard Edwards. This is my husband’s watch; I pawned it on the 1st of November, at Mr. Jerome’s.
Prisoner. I wish to ask if it had been on the counter from the 1st of November to the 2nd.
JOSEPH JEROME. No; it was put into the drawer the night it was pawned; but the next morning the gentleman was going to take it up-stairs with some other watches, and it was on the back-counter.
Prisoner’s Defence (written). I went to the prosecutor’s for the purpose of pledging two silver watches. The shop lad took them up-stairs, and in about two minutes returned with them, saying the price would not do. I was at that time standing at the shop-door with the brother of the prosecutor; there was a young man with a broach standing in the next box to me. I declare to God, and in your presence, that I never saw any watch but these said two, and which were my own. On the Wednesday following, I went to Mr. Jerome’s shop to pledge a silver hunting watch, and Mr. Jerome said he should retain that one, as I had stolen one from his shop on the Saturday previous. I told him if I had it was not likely I should come again to his shop, and if he thought I had really stolen it, he had better give me into custody; he then sent for an officer, and I was taken before the Lord Mayor, when his lordship dismissed the charge. I then returned to Mr. Jerome’s shop for my watch which he had retained: he told me that as I had told the Lord Mayor, that he, (Mr. Jerome) was in the habit of making out false tickets of gold watches, he and several of the trade would look after me. On the following Friday I was again taken into custody on the same charge; and on the oath of Mr. Worley (another pawnbroker), who swore I pawned the watch with him. I was committed for trial. On the 1st of November, I pledged a silver hunting watch with Mr. Worley for 30s., and on the Saturday evening I went with the two first named watches to pledge, but we could not agree as to the amount to be lent on them. When I went in, the shop was full of customers, and there were two men also with silver watches for pledge at the same time; one of whom I knew, his name was Gig. If I had stolen the watch as charged to me, it is not at all likely I should have offered it for pledge at a place where I was so well known; and if I had pawned it, why not have put my own name and address as I did on the hunter the day before? I have been in the watch trade all my life, with the exception of about thirteen years service on board a man-of-war under the command of Sir John Beresford. If I had the watch in my possession for five minutes, I should have opened it to ascertain its value, and then I must have seen the piece of marked silk which was said to have been in the case, and which I could easily have removed; and I could have taken off the namepiece and field the name off, and have engraved my own name and number instead I most solemnly declare, that I know nothing whatever of the watch in question. It being Saturday evening, and Mr. Worley being busy, some other young man might have taken it in. I never have pledged anything in any other name than my own; and if I had pledged it, the ticket would have appeared with my own name and address.
Stephen Griffith, a silver polisher, gave the prisoner a good character.
GUILTY. Aged 40. - Transported for Seven Years.
William Woodman was listed as 41 years old on arrival.
Place of Birth: Bristol.
Goal Report: Known to the Police.
Hulk Report: Good
Surgeons Report: Very good, extremely useful as a Teacher.
William was 5’4” tall, dark complexion, brown hair and whiskers, blue eyes, brown mole on left arm.
Married with 6 children, wife Mary at Goswell Street, London.
1835 Muster: Public Works.
28/11/1840: Free Certificate.
19/3/1842 Launceston Examiner:
William Woodman, a licensed hawker, was charged with feloniously receiving one gold ring, the property of Mrs. Sarah Hines ; remanded.
2/4/1842 Launceston Examiner:
ADJOURNED QUARTER SESSIONS.
James Greenslade and George Hills forfeited their recognizances for failing to produce William Woodman.
Found the following, which sounds like this William, and found nothing further of him in Tasmania. There was another William Woodman in Launceston about the same time, he was a convict on the Georgiana and died in 1859.
13/8/1845 South Australian Register, Adelaide:
Monday, August 11.
William Woodman, an elderly man, with a visible obliquity in his eye, was charged by George Harrison Day, with breach of trust, in having pledged, for his own benefit, a watch, entrusted him for sale.
The complainant sworn—l know the prisoner by the name of Woodman.
The Magistrate— Is the watch in Court ?
Complainant—l believe Mr Wadey has it.
Mr Wadey laid the watch on the table.
Witness continued—Defendant came to me at eight o’clock, on Thursday morning, the 31st July, and said, he could dispose of my gold watch : I had before entrusted it to him for a similar purpose, and gave it to him again without hesitation; I identify the watch produced as being mine, and of the value of
£6 6s ; he was to bring me the money, or return me the watch the same night; he did not do so ; I saw him on the following Saturday, at his own house, when he told me he had met with a bargain which he wanted money to complete, and had raised a pound on the watch for that purpose, of Mr Wadey; on applying to Mr Wadey I found his statement correct, but could not obtain my watch; this morning the prisoner paid me sixpence for mending a broach, but I have received no part of the pound for which he pledged my watch.
Cross-examined—lt was on Thursday the 3lst July, you had the watch.
Prisoner—The summons states the 13 Aug.
The Magistrate—That is the Clerk’s error; it has nothing to do with the case.
Cross-examination continued—You had the watch from me twice before; you were to sell it for £6 6s., and to have the six shillings for the trouble; I do not recollect that I said I would take £6; you have bad several transactions with me and always, till the present, paid me very honourably indeed.
By the Court—The prisoner has been often employed by me as an agent, and was so in this instance; others employed him in the same way; he has a commission, I suppose, but I have never paid him any, as he has effected no sale for me ; the agreement in this instance was, that he should have six shillings.
Charles Wadey, examined.—The watch now produced was placed in my hands by the prisoner about a fortnight ago, as security for one pound, which I consented to lend him for two hours, to buy some clothes with. He had before offered me the watch for sale, and said it was his own. I told him I could not lend the money for more than two hours, but on his promising to return it within that time I let him have it. He had not given me the money back, nor did I see anything of him until Mr Day called on me about the watch. I have often bought things of the prisoner, but have not known whether they were his own or whether he had them on commission ; and I have before advanced him money, which he has always paid. This has been the case sometimes when I have had no security. I have never received any benefit from the money I have lent him.
Complainant re-called—l do not owe the prisoner anything.
The prisoner made the following statement:
—When I had the watch of the complainant I showed it to a gentleman, who said he had not the money to take it then, but would do on the next day but one. After this, I saw some goods which would come to £5, and I had but £4, and I thought if I borrowed £1 of Mr Wadey, I could soon sell a part of them, and
release the watch. I purchased the goods, and took them about the town to sell them. I sold a part of them, but happening to meet with a person whom I knew, I got a little too much to drink, and, going home, fell asleep in Light square. When I awoke, my pockets were turned inside out, and my money, as well as
some clothes and jewellery I had with me, were gone. The following day, having nothing to sell, 1 endeavoured to get in some debts which were owing to me, but I have hitherto been unable to collect enough to release the watch, although there is above £30 due to me.
I shall be willing to pay the pound as soon as I can get it. I have goods by me worth more than €5 as soon as I can dispose of them.
The Magistrates said it was a dishonest act, and a very serious offence. He must commit the prisoner for trial, but would take his own recognizance in £40 for his appearance. The watch must be detained for the present.
10/8/1845 South Australian Register, Adelaide:
The jury without retiring found the prisoner “Not Guilty” but wished his Honor to caution him.
22/2/1847 South Australia - In court again for for pawning a watch, which he lost in a tossing game at the John O’Groats public house. His Honor observed that this was not his first appearance in that court, and sentenced him to six
Jan. 1853: Another William Woodman and Mary Ann Woodman arrived in SA per ‘Macedon’—cannot follow him further.
SA BDM has a death listed for William Woodman in 1853 - no further details given.
Convict Changes History
D Wong on 26th October, 2019 made the following changes:
date of birth: 1792 (prev. 0000), gender: m, occupation, crime