John Lyall

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Maureen Withey on 10th September 2025

Colonial Secretary Index. LYLE, John (Per "Earl Spencer", 1813) see DUNCAN, John DUNCAN, John or LYLE. Per "Earl Spencer", 1813 1818 Jun 8 Convict runaway returned from India per "Greyhound" (Reel 6018; 4/3521 p.182) 1818 Apr 18 On list of runaways returned from India per "Greyhound" (Reel 6006; 4/3498 p.164) 1819 Aug 6 On list of prisoners to be sent to Newcastle per "Elizabeth Henrietta" (Reel 6006; 4/3500 p.202) 1821 Jan 27 On list of prisoners transported to Newcastle per "Lady Nelson"; listed as Lyal alias Duncansen (Reel 6007; 4/3503 p.72) 1822 Jan On monthly return of prisoners punished at Newcastle (Reel 6023; 4/1718 pp.141-2) 1825 Jan 3 Runaway from Newcastle in Government boat; retaken (Reel 6068; 4/1812 p.2) 1825 Mar On monthly return of prisoners punished at Newcastle (Reel 6023; 4/1718 p.201) LILE, John alias DUNCAN. Per "Earl Spencer" 1819 Aug 6 On list of prisoners to be sent to Newcastle per "Elizabeth Henrietta" (Reel 6006; 4/3500 p.202) ------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 Aug 1819. On list of prisoners to be sent to Newcastle per "Elizabeth Henrietta" John Lile, alias Duncan, per Earl Spencer, Convict, Convicted by D Wentworth Esq. 30 July 1819, Carpenter, Sentence, One year.

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Maureen Withey on 21st April 2021

Name: John Duncan (Lyall) Ship: Earl Spencer 1813 Date: 1825 March Place: Newcastle Source: Colonial Secretary's Papers. Monthly Return of Corporal Punishments inflicted at Newcastle Details: William Tunnicliffe, Thomas Smith, Joseph Pritchard, James Johnston, John Duncan and James O'Berry all assigned to government service. The first four sentenced to 100 lashes and the last two to 50 lashes for absenting themselves from the settlement at Newcastle and on a strong suspicion of piratically seizing, carrying away and destroying a boat, the property of the Crown. Source: https://www.freesettlerorfelon.com/searchaction.php?page=1&surname=lyall&ship=&firstname=john

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D Wong on 25th October 2013

Listed as John Duncan: 18/4/1818: On lists of runaways returned from India per "Greyhound". 27/1/1821: Transported to Newcastle per "Lady Nelson" Jan. 1822: Sentenced to 50 lashes for being absent from Quarters, Newcastle. Nov. 1824: Assigned to Government Service, sentenced to 50 lashes by the Commandant for theft at King's Stores. 3/1/1825: Runaway from Newcastle in a Government boat. Retaken. 1834: TOL Maitland. 1/7/1841: CP

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John McGowan on 25th October 2013

On 3 January 1811, Adam Lyall along with his brother - the subject John Lyall appeared at Edinburgh High Court on a libel - 25 October 1810 armed robbery (with pistol)off Matthew Boyd, cattle dealer at Sheriffmuir and stealing £126. John Lyall feign insanity, was detained in Edinburgh Tolbooth, but later discharged. Adam Lyall was convicted and executed 27 March 1811. In January 1812, while in pursuit of two culprits who had fled to Glasgow after committing robberies during the Edinburgh Hogmanay Riots, 1811/1812, Edinburgh detective Archibald Campbell came across John Lyall, in custody at Glasgow Tolbooth (reasons unknown) under the name Duncanson. As a consequence, on 1 June 1812, John Lyall alias Duncanson, stood trial again at Edinburgh High Court for the 1811 robbery. The defence claimed 'mental incapacity' but rejected and found guilty. After submission for leniency - transportation for life. See Edinburgh Evening Courant (No.15,760) dated 18 June 1812 for trial; and McGowan, John (2013)A New Civic Order: The contribution of the City of Edinburgh Police, 1805-1812, p 271, pp 294-295 and p 317