James Thomas Munting

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Penny-Lyn Beale on 5th September 2025

1865 - – Queens Orphan School Application for Admission; Application made by; Mary Munting CHILDREN; Munting, James Frederick. Born; 6 March 1853 Munting, Mary. 9 years old Munting, James. 4 years old FATHER; James Thomas. Trade; Tailor Ship; Anson - 1844 Residence; Under sentence; at Port Arthur for 4 years MOTHER; Mary Wall, No Employment Ship; Duke of Cornwall. C.P. 17 June 1856 Residence; Brisbane St, Launceston FRIENDS OF THE ORPHAN SCHOOLS Orphan Number: 4005 Orphan: James/Thomas MUNTING Mother: WALL/WARD, Mary Father: MUNTING, James Thomas Mother's ship: Duke of Cornwall Father's ship: Anson Age when admitted: 4yrs Date admitted: 2 Mar 1865 Date discharged: 13 Feb 1868 Institutions(s): Queens Orphan School Discharged to: father Remarks: father in prison at Port Arthur References: SWD26/8, 27, CSD25/11/396, HAP1871/63 Orphan Number: 4006 Orphan: Mary MUNTING Mother: WALL/WARD, Mary Father: MUNTING, James Thomas Mother's ship: Duke of Cornwall Father's ship: Anson Age when admitted: 9yrs Date admitted: 2 Mar 1865 Date discharged: 13 Feb 1868 Institutions(s): Queens Orphan School Discharged to: father Remarks: won 15/- as Fox's prize Jan 1868 - father in prison at Port Arthur References: SWD26/8, 27, CSD25/11/396, HAP71/63

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Maureen Withey on 23rd November 2019

Old Bailey Proceedings Online (www.oldbaileyonline.org, version 8.0, 23 November 2019), June 1843, trial of JAMES THOMAS (t18430612-1884). JAMES THOMAS, Theft > pocketpicking, 12th June 1843. 1884. JAMES THOMAS was indicted for stealing, on the 24th of May, 1 purse, value 1s.; 3 shillings, and 1 groat; the property of Ellen Mary Stiles, from her person; and that he had been before convicted of felony. ELLEN MART STILES . I am single, and live with my mother, in Gower-street, Bedford-square. On the afternoon of the 24th of May I went into the shop of Mr. Butt, a linen-draper, in Mortimer-street, about ten minutes after five o'clock—I went to the counter of the shop to make a purchase, and was looking at some ribbons—Mrs. Butt called out, and ran to the door—in consequence of what she said, I felt my pocket, and missed my purse, which contained from 3s. to 5s.—there was a fourpenny-piece in it—I know I had my purse about an hour before—it was a blue and drab netted purse—I have not seen it again. Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Where were you standing? A. At the end of the counter, a good way from the door—I know I had my purse when I got out of an omnibus in Rathbone-place—I then went home, and had been walking up Oxford-street before I went to Mr. Butt's—I did not feel anything done to me—my attention was merely called by Mrs. Butt, who ran out of the shop immediately—I went to the door, and asked what was we matter—I did not miss my purse till I was told—it was three or four minutes before I found it was gone—I had not been in any other shop. CAROLINE BUTT . I am the wife of Henry Butt, a linen-draper, in Mortimer-street. On the afternoon of the 24th of May I was in a room at the end of the shop—I could see into the shop—I saw Miss Stiles come into the shop and come to the further end of the counter—I could see what took place at the counter where she was—I saw the prisoner and another man—the prisoner stood behind Miss Stiles, and I saw him lift up part of the skirt of her dress, put his hand into her pocket, and take out her purse—it appeared to be a long drab net purse—I ran out, took hold of him by the shoulder, and said, "This man has taken this lady's purse"—I saw it in his hand when I took hold of his shoulder—he got from me, and ran into the street—I did not take notice whether the other man went out—I followed the prisoner, and called out—a gentleman followed him, and he was brought back by a policeman in about ten minutes. Cross-examined. Q. Had you ever seen him before? A. No—the room I was in is a continuation of the shop—there is no door to it—I was sitting very near to where the prisoner was standing—I should think five or six ladies were in the shop, standing at the counter—Miss Stiles was between the prisoner and me—he came behind, and lifted her dress, while she was looking at some ribbons—I did not hear him ask to be served with anything—Mr. Butt's mother was serving Miss Stiles, and Mr. Butt was serving higher up in the shop—the prisoner was nearly close to Miss Stiles when I took hold of him—I had not seen him before—he had not got off the pavement when I got out of the shop—I did not see him stopped. JAMES NEWMAN (police-constable E 62.) I took the prisoner in Great Titchfield-street—he had been stopped by some gentleman—nine or ten persons were holding him, he was so resolute—he told me I had better let him go, as the lady would not press the charge against him—I found three shillings in his waistcoat pocket—I took him back to Mr. Butt's shop. Cross-examined. Q. What time did you take him? A. About half-past five o'clock—I did not see any long drab purse. NATHANIEL WRIGHT (police-constable P 172.) I produce a certificate of the prisoner's conviction, which I got at Mr. Clark's office—(read)—the prisoner is the person. GUILTY . Aged 24.— Transported for Ten Years. Tasmanian conduct Record: https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON33-1-50$init=CON33-1-50p170 James Thomas Muntin, aged about 67 years, a tailor, well known about Launceston, dropped dead on Tuesday afternoon in Charles-street, opposite the State school. Muntin, who has been for some time an out patient at the Hospital, under treatment for heart disease, had just called there for a bottle of medicine, but, despite the warning of the doctor, who noticed that he looked ill, refused to remain in the institution. The Tasmanian, Sat 10 1891. 1891 -Looking backward…. In January, James Minting dropped dead in Charles-street, Launceston ; The Mercury Hobart, 1 Jan 1892.

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allan kemp on 23rd November 2019

His family name was Munting but the Court at Old Bailey did not record this - when he went before a local court in Hobart his family name was given plus it is shown on his marriage records

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allan kemp on 3rd October 2012

Reconvicted as James Thomas Minting for 4 Years to Port Arthur. Married Mary Wall ( convict SWD7,28) 6 Mar 1851 St Joseph's Roman C.C. Launceston (copy of record) Spouse Mary Wall (Name given as Ward on record) MUNTING was the family name.