John Pye

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CPye on 13th January 2024

Hannah Humm & Thomas Pye had a son also Thomas1833-1920 M Mary Rigney. Who had John 1865-1938 M Mary Stain who had my GF Lionel Pye 1906-1987 who M Muriel Schroder. Also see this book A family of significant substance : 197 years of the Pye family in Australia / by Christine Thomas (a couple of errors but informative). And of course more than 197 years now..

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iain Frazier on 15th March 2023

Mary (Norton) was born as Mary (Phillips) & can be found under that name on this Website.

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iain Frazier on 14th March 2023

Family connections for John (Pye) are: Some amendments added Sep 2025. PYE John (Pye) was born on 22 3 1769. He was tried for arson at Warwick Assizes 0n 31 7 1790, sentenced to 14years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 9 7 1791 after a voyage of 6months on Fleet ship BRITANNIA. In Smees records he is always recorded as Job (Pye). He married Mary (Norton/Phillips her second marriage) on 11 12 1791 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. On 30 12 1796 he was granted 20acres at Toongabbie Baulkham Hills, where he produced wool. He was Free by Servitude by 1798. In 1802 he was granted 30acres more. He named his farm 'Pye farm'. He is recorded in 1806 as John (Pye) husband of Mary at Parramatta with 7children. He built & operated the Lamb & Lark Inn on Pyes corner Parramatta-Windsor Rd Baulkham Hills-which much later became the Bull & Buck hotel. He is recorded in 1828 as farmer with his family at Seven Hills with 1,210acres. He died on 22 9 1830 age61/3, leaving the Lamb & Lark Inn to son John. [Some details taken from this Website] Mary (Norton) was born about 1763. She married firstly ??? (Norton). She was tried at Warwick Assizes, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 9 7 1791 after a voyage of 6months on Fleet ship MARY ANN. She was Free by Servitude by 1798. She is recorded in 1806 as Mary (Pye) wife of John at Parramatta with 7children. She is recorded in 1828 with her family at Seven Hills. She died on 8 2 1843age about78 mother of 8known children. [Some details taken from this Website] John/Job (Pye) & Mary (Norton/Phillips) produced 8children: 1.Joseph (Pye) was born on 19 7 1796 & baptised on 4 9 1796 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He is recorded in 1806 at Parramatta with his parents. He married Elizabeth (Ward) on 29 9 1815 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He is recorded in 1827 as settler at Eastern Cree, in 1828 as landholder with his family at Seven Hills & in 1830 a a farmer. He died on 5 1 1853 age56. ..Elizabeth (Ward) was born on 29 6 1797 & baptised on 29 4 1798 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She died in 1852 age about55. ..Details of Elizabeth (Ward) family are given in entry for John/Joseph (Wade/Ward ADMIRAL BARRINGTON 1791) on this Website. ..Joseph (Pye) & Elizabeth (Ward) produced at least 7children: ..1.Joseph (Pye) was born on 6 6 1819 & baptised on 18 7 1819 w/Sarah at St Johns CofE Parramatta. ..2.Sarah (Pye) was born on 6 6 1819 also & baptised on 18 7 1819 w/Joseph at St Johns CofE Parramatta. ..3.John (Pye) was born on 21 8 1821. ..4.Mary Ann (Pye) was born on 3 9 1822 at Parramatta & baptised on 6 10 1822 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. ..5.Sarah (Pye) was born on 23 9 1824 at Bathurst & baptised on 7 11 1824 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. ..6.Charles Walker (Pye) was born on 13 5 1827 at Eastern Creek & baptised on 17 6 1827 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. ..7.David (Pye) was born on 2 12 1829 at Easter-sic Creek & baptised on 3 1 1830 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. .. 2.John (Pye) was born on 26 6 1798 & baptised on 5 8 1798 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He is recorded in 1806 at Parramatta with his parents. He married Ellen/Eleanor (Murray) of Sydney on 2 1 1826 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He is recorded in 1828 near to Sydney Hills as publican wth his family. In 1830 he received Lamb & Lark Inn from Will of his father, which he leased to John (Williams) & Andrew (Nash) in 1845. He was recorded in 1831 as a farmer. He died on 31 12 1845 age 47 & left his Inn to son John. ..Eleanor (Murray) was born in 1806 in England. She was brought to NSW by her mother on 8 9 1810 after a journey of 6months on CANADA. She was living in Sydney in 1826. She was recorded in 1828 with her family near Seven Hills. ..Details of Eleanor/Ellen (Murray)s family are given in entry for Mary (Murray CANADA 1810) on this Website. ..John (Pye) & Ellen/Eleanor (Murray) produced at least 3children: ..1.Mary Eleanor (Pye) was born on 21 4 1827 & baptised on 3 6 1827. She is recorded in 1828 with her parents near Seven Hills. From 1846 she was to receive share of income from Lamb & Lark Inn with brother John. She married Samuel (Jenner). In 1853 she received Lamb & Lark Inn from death of her brother John which she needed to mortgage in 1854. ....Noted a Samuel (Jenner) was tried at Surrey Quarter Sessions, sentenced to 7years & arrived in NSW as a convict on 18 11 1834 after a voyage of 4months on HOOGHLEY. ...[Some details taken from this Website] ....Mary (Pye) & Samuel (Jenner) produced some children: ....1.the children sold the Lamb & Lark Inn to mortgagee Daniel (Horwood). ..2.William Clement/s (Pye) was born on 5 6 1829 at Baulkham Hills & baptised on 12 7 1829 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He died on 30 8 1829 age12w at Baulkham Hills & was buried at St Johns CofE Parramatta. ..3.John (Pye) was born on 2 1 1830 & baptised on 6 2 1831 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He received Lamb & Lark Inn from Will of his father in 1846; with income to share with sister Mary. He died on 24 6 1853 age22 & his Inn was passed to his sister Mary & husband. .. 3.Mary (Pye) was born on 1 11 1799 & baptised on 23 3 1800 w/Thomas at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She is recorded in 1806 at Parramatta with her parents. She died as Mary (Pye/Pisee recorded in Smees records as age19) on 29 1 1813 age13 & was buried at St Johns CofE Parramatta. 4.Thomas (Pye) was born on 11 3 1800 & baptised on 23 3 1800 w/Mary at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He is recorded in 1806 at Parramatta with his parents. He is recorded in 1828 as single & a farmer. He married Hannah (Humm) on 27 12 1830 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He died on 11 6 1858 age58. ..Ann/Hannah (Humm) was born on 22 3 1808 at Parramatta & baptised on 7 10 1810 age2 at St Phillips CfE Sydney. She is recorded in 1828 living with her mother & a sister. She died in 1853 age about45. ..Details of a Hannah (Humm)s family are given in entry for Mary (Hook) SCARBOROUGH 1790) on this Website. ..Thomas (Pye) & Hannah (Humm) produced perhaps 2children: ..1.Mary Anne (Pye) was born in 1836 in Bathurst. She married Charles Biass (Turner) in 1860 at Bathurst & produced 6children. She died in 1880 age about44 at Bathurst. ....Charles Biass (Turner) was born in 1835 in England. He became a goldminer pastoralist & hotelkeeper. ....Details of Charles Biass (Turner)s family are given in entry for Henry (Pleffer WATERLOO 1833) on this Website. .. ..2.Sarah Susan (Pye) was born in 1837 at Bathurst. She married David Campbell (Williamson) in 1863 about68 at Bathurst. ....David Campbell (Williamson) son of John (Williamson) was born in 1822 in Leitrim county Ireland. He is listed in 1872 PO Directory as secretary Star Bowker Howick St Bathurst. He became a publican town clerk & died in 1889 age about77 at Bathurst. ....Sarah Susan (Pye) & David Campbell (Williamson) produced 9children: ....1.Thomas P (Williamson) was born in 1864 at Bathurst. ....2.Eliza M A H (Williamson) was born in 1866 at Bathurst. ....3.David (Williamson) was born in 1868 at Bathurst. ....4.Sarah Susan (Williamson) was born in 1869 at Bathurst. She married James (Bunyan [maybe shown ABOVE see ADLAM]) in 1889 at Bathurst. She died in 1934 age about65 at Manly. ......Sarah Susan (Williamson) & James (Bunyan) produced 4children: ......1.Sarah A (Bunyan) was born in 1890 at Bathurst. ......2.Charlotte M (Bunyan) was born in 1892 at Bathurst. ......3.Mathew Robert (Bunyan) was born in 1894 at Bathurst. ......4.Thelma F (Bunyan) was born in 1898 at Bathurst. .. ....5.Mary (Williamson) was born in 1871 at Bathurst. ....6.David Campbell (Williamson) was born in 1874 at Bathurst. ....7.Sidney Sarsfield P (Williamson) was born in 1878 at Bathurst. ....8.Margaret (Williamson) was born in 1880 at Bathurst. ....9.David (Williamson) was born in 1883 at Bathurst. .. 5.Sarah (Pye) was born on 3 6 1801 & baptised on 12 8 1801 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She is recorded in 1806 at Parramatta with her parents. She is recorded in 1828 as living with her parents at Seven Hills. She married Thomas (Rose his fifth? marriage) on 21 9 1829 at St Peters CofE Campbelltown & produced 5children. She died on 20 6 1869 age68+; descendants live in Monaro area. ..Thomas (Rose) was born about 1773. He was tried w/2others for breaking entering & stealing a boat at Shrewsbury Shropshire Assizes on 19 3 1793, sentenced to death commuted to Life & arrived in NSW as a convict on 18 5 1798 after a voyage of 8months on BARWELL (as was his father in law Thomas (Bartlett)). In 1801 he, Richard (Perkins) & others were convicted of stealing a boat, sentenced to death & pardoned by the Governor. He became a baker in 1804. He married firstly (1of5?) Elizabeth (Bartlett) with permission on 13 4 1806 at St Phillips CofE Sydney. He was issued his Conditional Pardon on 4 6 1806 when he received a publicans licence & granted land at Chapel Row where he built a bakery & Rose & Crown hotel-both opened in 1810; here he eventually owned all the land bounded by King, Elizabeth, Market & Castlereagh Streets. He receved his Absolute Pardon on 1 12 1809. In 1813 he was granted 40acres at Evan district (cancelled in 1816). His Absolute Pardon was continued on 31 1 1814. He sold his bakery in 1815. In 1816 he was accused of seditious conduct & sufferred penalties as mentioned on this Website. About 1819 he bought 400acres 'Mount Gilead' on Appin Road. He was an innkeeper in 1826 & was looking after 6other children ages6-19 when his wife died. He commenced living at 'Mount Gilead' in 1827 where he experimented successfully with water conservation & ground flour in his 60' windmill. He had another (his third 3of5?) relationship with Sarah (Burgess/Perkins her second (2of3) relationship) before 1828. He had increased his landholding by 1828 to 2,460acres when he was recorded as a farmer at Appin with 6children. He had another (4of5?) relationship with Elizabeth (Woodhouse/Aiken her second relationship). He was a stockholder of Bank NSW, trustee Sydney Public Free Grammer School, treasurer Sydney Reading Room, stock/land agent, owner race horses & clerk Sydney Race Ground as mentioned on this Website. He was recorded in 1830 as a settler/farmer. [Noted a Thomas (Rose) is recorded as dying on 3 3 1829 age about56] This person seems to have died on 3 3 1837 age about64 father of perhaps as many as 14children & was buried at Mt Gilead. Later his remains were removed to St Peters CofE Campbelltown; he left a large estate=farms on the Nepean, at Airds, the Murray District, and Botany Bay, houses at Richmond and Windsor, as well as property in Market and Castlereagh Streets including the Rose and Crown Inn and the estate at Mt Gilead. Upon his death, his estate, at Campbelltown, was managed by trustees & distributed to many of his family, until his son Charles Henry Jacob took over Mt Gilead in 1858. In 1864 the mortgagee foreclosed and Henry Rose was forced to sell Mt Gilead. In 1867, Mt Gilead was purchased by his stepson banker Edmond (Woodhouse), son of Elizabeth (Woodhouse) of Appin, who established a very successful dairy. ..Details of Thomas (Rose)s family are given in entry for Thomas (Bartlett BARWELL 1798) on this Website. .. 6.James (Pye) was born on 18 3 1803 & baptised on 28 8 1803 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He is recorded in 1806 at Parramatta with his parents. He is recorded in 1828 as living with his parents at Seven Hills. He died on 30 12 1884 age81. 7.Elizabeth (Pye) was born on 31 5 1804 & baptised on 24 6 1805 age1 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She is recorded in 1806 at Parramatta with her parents. She is recorded in 1828 as living with her parents at Seven Hills. She married James (Thorne) on 21 7 1829 at St Johns CofE Parramatta & produced at least 1child. She died in 1839 age about35. ..James (Thorn) was born on 3 9 1804 & baptised on 14 10 1804 at St Johns CofE Parramatta & became a butcher. In 1828 he received half of 100acres at Parramatta from his fathers Will. In 1849 he was living at Fish River. He died on 27 2 1855 age50. ..Details of James (Thorn)s family are given in entry for Humphrey (Thorne NEPTUNE 1790) on this Website. .. 8.Jane (Pye) was born on 11 2 1808 & baptised on 29 4 1810 age14m at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She is recorded in 1828 as living with her parents at Seven Hills. She married William (Batman) on 28 7 1829 at St Johns CofE Parramatta. She died on 3 11 1838 age30. ..William (Batman) was born on 15 3 1806 & baptised on 10 6 1810 age4 w/John, Henry, Charles at St Johns CofE Parramatta. He is recorded in 1828 with his parents on 25acres at Parramatta. He died on 12 12 1834 age28. ..Details of William (Batman)s family are given in entry for William (Batman GANGES 1797) on this Website. References: Craig James Smee 'Births and Baptisms Marriages and Defacto Relationships Deaths and Burials New South Wales 1788-1830' ..a complete listing from church & other records in the early colony. Family History Group of Bathurst Inc.'Bathurst Pioneers-Register of Pioneer Families Of Bathurst NSW And District <1900'

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Phil Hands on 1st July 2017

Tried on 31st July 1790 in Warwickshire for arson and sentenced to 14 years transportation. Left England on 27th March 1791. Ship:- the 'Brittania' sailed with 150 male convicts on board of which 21 died during the voyage. Arrived on 14th October 1791. In the colony, John married Mary Norton (Convict, Mary Ann, 1791). They were married on December 11th 1791, at Parramatta. John and Mary had 8 children between 1791 and 1808. John Pye's Inn - "The Lamb & The Lark" On 30 December 1796 a convict named John Pye was granted 20 acres of land in the Toongabbie District. With a further 30 acres granted in 1802, he set about becoming a pioneer in the district, a model citizen, successful farmer and innkeeper. In 1810 Governor Macquarie described Pye as an 'industrious settler' whose farm (was) 'well cultivated in most excellent order with good offices, and comfortable decent dwelling here'. Fortunately for John Pye, the route of the new road from Parramatta to Windsor crossed the road to Seven Hills on part of his land, cutting off a small triangle in the north-western corner of the property. This plot of land being on the meeting of two of the colonies major thoroughfares offered an ideal position for establishing an inn. The intersection became known as "Pye's Corner" and within a few years an inn known as the "Lamb and Lark" had been established. It was a small timber cottage with a veranda at the front offering welcome hospitality to travellers. John Pye died on 25th September 1830 aged 63 and left the Lamb and Lark to his son John Pye Junior. 1845 saw John Pye Junior lease the inn to John Williams and Andrew Nash. Nash was a well-known Parramatta publican and entrepreneur who also held the licenses for the famous "Woolpack Inn" and the "Hawkesbury Inn". John Williams, who later became Parramatta's first Mayor was also associated with the Woolpack Inn. When John Pye Junior died in 31 December 1845 he left the Lamb and Lark to his son John Pye III with his elder daughter Mary Elizabeth, to receive income from the property for life. John Pye III subsequently died on 24 June 1853 at the age of 22, interstate, without children, so the entire estate passed in 1858 to his elder sister and her husband Samuel Jenner. Mary Elizabeth and Samuel Jenner mortgaged the property in 1854 with they and their children continuing to receive rent from the property. In 1884 the surviving children sold their life interest to Daniel Horwood, who had become mortgagee

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Denis Pember on 25th November 2015

Sainty & Johnson; 1828 Census of New South Wales: [Ref P1461] Pye, John, 60, CF(?), Brittania 1791, Farmer at Seven Hills. 1210 acres, 260 cleared, 100 cultivated, 20 horses, 762 cattle, 100 sheep. (Doing very nicely thankyou! Seems to have forgotten he was transported?) [Ref P1462] Pye, Mary, 65, CF(?), Mary Ann, 1791. Also James 25, Sarah, 27, Elizabeth 23 and Jane 21, all Born in the colony and all living at home. Nearby:- Joseph 32 [Ref P1435] Landholder with his wife and family. John (jnr) 31 [Ref P1447] Publican with wife and family. Thomas 29 [P1452] Farmer single. The other child, Mary had died, aged 13 in 1813.

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Denis Pember on 25th November 2015

Five years after arriving in the colony John was given a 30 acre grant in Baulkham Hills by Governor Hunter. Later additions formed his home 'Pye Farm' near the junction of Old Northern Road and the Windsor Road. John built an inn known as the 'Lamb and Lark' on the site of the more recent 'Bull and Bush' hotel at Baulkham Hills, and he was an early wool grower, being able to supply fleeces to the Government factory at Parramatta from his flocks at Toongabbie.

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Denis Pember on 25th November 2015

In the colony, John married Mary Norton (Convict, Mary Ann, 1791). They were married December 11th 1791, at Parramatta. John and Mary had 8 children between 1791 and 1808.